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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of this new July 8 1947 the Army Air

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Forces has announced that applying this

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the army the game is

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rigged change the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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and a GRA the global rain

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I need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game-changing network

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good evening fade to black

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today's Tuesday December 4th 2018 338

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days into the new year just 27 days left

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we're late in the fourth quarter here

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folks and as always we are live

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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far and near that's right this is fade

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to black for kjc are the game-changer

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Network and K GRA the planet a cambiar

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host Jimmy Church what is Carl racket

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how're you doing I feel pretty good

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tonight I'm gonna review Jeremy corbels

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new film Bob Lazar area 51 a flying

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saucers and I'm gonna do that with a

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wolf McCarran that's right wolf McCarran

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one of the original area 51 researchers

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a little curious note about the wolf

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probably all of the footage you have

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Travel Channel whatever any Danny move

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chances are wolf McCarran shot it he was

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out there as a young man and a very

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young man with a video camera running

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around chasing after and being chased by

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all of the camo dudes and just was out

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there with all of the original cats all

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of the original guys back in the early

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early nineties l's wolf McCarran and he

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had the vision to carry a video camera

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with him and shoot it all he's got an

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extensive the most extensive area 51

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video library on the planet and the cool

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thing is he's shot at all

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and he's met Bob Lazar if anybody's

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gonna review the film it's gonna be wolf

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now and the other cool thing is last

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night at the premiere sitting to my left

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next to me was wolf okay so we watched

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the film together and there you go now

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and the other thing is and we'll talk

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about this in a little bit wolf and I

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have not discussed the film I just

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decided let's let's do it like this

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we saw what we saw

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let's talk about it tonight and wolf is

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it's over 30 years okay I've known wolf

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and I trust his opinion but his his

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knowledge phat a very 50 would you know

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it there are things about wolf that I

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can't even talk about well I would

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mention it but he would be upset but

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area 51 that is owned by the government

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but that's it that's all I'm gonna say

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as long I can't say any more you want to

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know more but I just can't say tomorrow

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night we have a very special surprise

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tomorrow and yes you will be surprised

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Thursday night is another Fator night

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with Teresa and Aris divine frequency on

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the airwaves followed by open lines all

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night long now on stellar okay if you

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want you can head over to on stellar

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right now I posted it the links to it a

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few minutes ago I posted my review of

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the film which is a short a very short

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version of the show tonight and

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obviously I can't do a full review and

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you know a two-and-a-half hour review

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and type that out that's a book you know

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we don't need we don't need five

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thousand words for review I wonder how

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many words is in that review I thought

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it was too long and I wanted to add more

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to it but so I held off in fact I took a

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lot of paragraphs out for a couple of

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reasons one I just wanted that review to

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be simple and to the point and honest of

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course but the other thing is I just

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wanted to leave something on the table

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for tonight but if you want to go and

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check out that review the links are up

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at Twitter they are also over on

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Facebook okay so you can head over and

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read the review and and and have it

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forever if you so desire okay so that's

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on stellar on stellar calm Twitter you

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is the sandbox and I say it often we

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sandbox there's going to be one to three

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thousand tweets tonight that are gonna

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go down during the show head over to the

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conversations that are going on there we

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over at Spreaker and one over at kg are

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lots to talk about tonight it was a very

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very very big night here in Hollywood

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downtown at the Ace Hotel we spent we

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there was any kind of after-party with

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Bob or nap or or Clarabel downstairs I

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don't know what was going on there all

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the fader knots we gravitated to the

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rough where we took that over it was a

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lot of fun if you were there we'll post

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some pictures but if you were there

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calling tonight if you were at the

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premiere you don't have to be a fade or

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not if you're at the premiere you can

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also give us a call here I would love to

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hear from you guys tonight and the phone

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the phone lines here in a little bit if

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you're at the premiere last night and

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tonight's the night to do that you can

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come and join us for the 2019 conscious

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Billy Carson David Wilcock on Friday

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that that's a big big evening for us

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there are lots of celebrations that are

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2019 conscious life Expo go to conscious

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Hilton so if you're coming in from out

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up north whatever you're just flying

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because it's right there you could

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a roll-on carry-on bag you can walk to

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the hotel you can also or you can take a

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taxi or whatever but it's literally

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he's there for you he'll answer all of

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your questions point you in the right

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direction okay they've got a lot of

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great stuff that is going on over there

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thank you for that John I will retweet

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that right now there you go Hoffman's

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International Business Times one of my

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informations really good they had an

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said Bitcoin is probably gonna settle in

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at around $2,500 that's what that's what

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it's gonna do I think it's gonna go

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lower but to have IV x say that man here

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email to me what else do you get you get

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the bunker cam yeah that's gonna get

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sussed out is it running tonight

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bunker cam running somebody posts me a

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tweet I didn't even I didn't even look

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today one of our favorites Marisa Tomei

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is 54 won an Academy Award for my cousin

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served it Jeff Bridges today is 69 and

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you know why he makes the cut there's a

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lot of reasons but one big one the Big

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Lebowski Jeff Bridges today the dude

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dude what's the guy's name that narrates

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The Big Lebowski you know the Marlboro

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Man the guy with the great mustache who

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is that okay it's working bunker cam is

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good thank you

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who's the dude with the gray mustache

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the the Marlboro Man that narrates The

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Big Lebowski thank you for not smoking

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it's that guy I can't view Adonis thank

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you viewing of it what's his name what

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what does what's his name anybody know

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okay all right

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post his picture thank you for

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non-smoking all right where I'm at where

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am I at understand history OTD 1872 a

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British ship under captain David

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Morehouse spots the Mary Celeste that's

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right and Paranormal Activity was born

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not Tom Selleck Caron Sam Elliott

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that's good who did that ah ah rev Jimmy

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all the way from the UK comes in strong

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with Sam Elliot it's very impressive

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there Jimmy anyway Paranormal Activity

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started on this day in 1872 a British

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ship under captain David Morehouse spots

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the Mary Celeste an American vessel

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sailing erratically but was at full sail

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all the sales are up near the Azores

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Islands in the Atlantic Ocean

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the ship was sea earthy its stores and

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supplies were untouched but nobody now

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soul was on board and and the rumors and

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the stories about what was there when

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they got aboard

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the food was still warm the lifeboats

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were there right it's one of the

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craziest stories ever but it happened on

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this day in 1872 Fader fact okay here we

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go are you ready the toothpaste Colgate

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in Spanish translates to are you ready

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wait for it go hang yourself is this

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thing on hey that's a great picture

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right there of Sam Elliot yep that's him

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and Sam with a thin mustache but that

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Sam good job John all right

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also in Roadhouse is he really Sam

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Elliot was the marble yes Sam Elliot

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what he's one of the Marlboro Man that's

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why he was in that movie thank you for

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not smoking I'm pretty sure am I wrong

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wasn't Sam Elliot a Marlboro Man

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somebody please confirm I don't I really

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don't want to be the disinfo guy I

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really don't all right where am I

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tonight I'm gonna review Jeremy corbels

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new film the film is called a bob lazar

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area 51 in flying saucers I'm gonna do

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that with Wolfman Carney it's gonna be

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with us here in a few short minutes and

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[Applause]

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how important can I gotta hit this

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coffee

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Colgate Colgate translates into go hang

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yourself are you quoting me or it's it's

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true right I think so what is it cold

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I don't know I don't know how important

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are these films you know and we've had a

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lot of them lately

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you serious right unacknowledged back to

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back from Steven Greer

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you know there's above majestic the hunt

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for skinwalker now we've got Bob Lazar

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area 51 and and flying saucers how

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important are these films and what is

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going on now these are except for

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serious but these are major studio

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releases and they're documentaries and

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for most of these are put out by the

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orchard and I understand this segment of

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of the viewing audience it's a big one

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it's a big one and people are talking

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about us and this subject right so it's

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not it don't please remember something

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it's not just us watching above majestic

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or you know like Bob Lazar it's not it's

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not it's getting outside of our

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community our community is very very

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very small numbers I mean you know big

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numbers to us in the world side of

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things you know when you look at a TV

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show like ancient aliens

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the average ancient aliens viewer never

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heard of Bob Lazar has no idea

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Rendlesham know they may know area 51

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because of Independence Day but they

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don't know area 51 because of Bob Lazar

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they don't listen to coast to coast am

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you know that's the average and so you

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got to think about how small our

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community is you know the numbers for

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above majestic I don't know what those

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are but they're not very big and the

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numbers from our community or whatever

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that are watching above majestic small

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those numbers are small it's outside of

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our community where the numbers are big

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that's something to think about you know

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you know how important are these films

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and I look at it this way when we have

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the UFO community and please everybody

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just listen to what I am saying because

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there are others that are going to

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listen to this little monologue later

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that are not part of this community or

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they may be listening now because

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they've wandered into the show but

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they're not a part of this community

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like I said they don't know who Bob

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Lazar is they don't know who Corey Goode

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is they don't know Richard Dolan is they

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don't know they don't know right okay

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so the importance of these films is who

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is viewing it outside of our community

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when you look at a film like serious the

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reason why serious was successful first

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off the film was a little bit different

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okay it covered a lot of ground it

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covered consciousness it covered

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awakening it did it had some UFO stuff

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in it it did have the atacama alien

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mummy dude in it right with Emory so you

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know it had that but if you watch the

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movie you knew by watching it that the

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atacama mummy was like a couple of

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minutes of the film and it really you

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had to I I watched the film for that and

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was so disappointed in that there was it

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was such a small part of the film

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serious reached into the consciousness

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community the yoga community the

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awakening community and that community

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doesn't know who Bob Lazar is that

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community doesn't know who Corey Goode

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is that community doesn't know

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necessarily about things like Roswell or

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or mountain strim Air Force Base they

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don't know you know Todd Kenneth Arnold

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they don't know about these things and

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that's the importance of these films is

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the reach out on the outside of it

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because when you look at unacknowledged

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my criticism of unacknowledged to fill

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was great film is edited really well

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having Louie Armstrong saying it's a

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wonderful world at the beginning hey you

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know what that was strong stuff right

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Mikey Missoula the way that he edited

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that and put that film together very

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commendable but that film wasn't made

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for our community it was made for

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everybody else it was made for my

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parents who know nothing about UFOs you

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know it's it's it's always focused at

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the lowest common denominator right and

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that's what unacknowledged did and above

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me ejected above majestic in very large

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part does the exact same thing there was

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some breaking stuff in above majestic

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that that I had never seen before and I

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thought was pretty cool but again to the

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lowest common denominator the hunt for

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skinwalker man you know a lot of a harsh

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criticism out there by about that film

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but for the most part it's made for

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people that have never heard of

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skinwalker that's that that's my opinion

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but that's what I get from it and and

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Bob Lazar here we are

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bob was our area 51 in UFOs what do we

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do with this film well we're gonna talk

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about this tonight and the the reason

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for all of these films with major

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distribution coming out so quickly back

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to back to bat and there's more coming

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out okay there's more I've got a couple

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of directors that have contacted me in

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the last couple of weeks that have major

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film releases in the works that either

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I've been on the show before or are you

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know part of the fade to black family

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here and that are gonna be on the show

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very soon and these films are finished

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so what's the reason for it so is it

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if you think about that why this

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community after viewing each one of

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these films which is sitting back on

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their hands going wow okay it's cool I'm

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glad it's out there I didn't learn

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anything well it's not about you it's

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not about this community think about who

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else is seeing these films that are

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being exposed to abroad when you think

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about the subjects in serious or

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unacknowledged you know secret access

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programs you go from that serious which

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is free energy and consciousness right

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unacknowledged secret access programs

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above majestic it's a lot of subjects

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and above majestic but again exposing

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people to this and another part of this

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a hum for skinwalker right paranormal

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activity at a ransom Utah right and then

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we've got Bob Lazar the whistleblower

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out of area 51 so so many are now

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wondering what is really going on is

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that the place that these films have

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right now not for our community and I I

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am comfortable in saying that am i

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walking away disappointed look the the

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level of a movie that you would have to

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see sitting next to me the level of

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information the comprehensive nature

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that would have to be so groundbreaking

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a mind-blowing for me to go oh I didn't

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know any of this before I don't even

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know what that movie would be and

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neither do you

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right so is that possible well I would

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looked I would love for that movie to be

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made but I can't have those kinds of

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expectations it's a very important point

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for all of us to realize you know so I

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came away from Lazar impressed in the

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cinematography yes

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technical issues we'll be talking about

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all of that tonight the subject of the

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film what was covered in the film

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should you watch it okay we're gonna

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cover all of that tonight but bear in

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mind I just honestly feel the film

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wasn't made for me and it wasn't made

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for you this is made for everybody else

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the Bob Lazar fans and the rest of the

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world so this is fade to black I'm your

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signature smart now I got a special

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surprise guess I'm gonna make that

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announcement tomorrow Thursday night

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Tracy Harris is going to be here with a

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divine frequency on the airwaves email

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is Jimmy and Jimmy church radio calm you

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can also follow me on twitter at GH

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radio we do have one to chat rooms we

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have one over at Spreaker we have one

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over at kgr a the planet and tonight a

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couple of things you can use the hashtag

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f2b for the sandbox you can use hashtag

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f2 bq4 fade to black questions and if

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you went to the premiere last night or

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if you purchase the film can you rent it

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too as well if you've seen the film in

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wolf McCarran and I are going to review

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area 51 in flying saucers we're gonna do

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all of that that's right Wolfie

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nobody knows more about area 51 then

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Wolfie McCarran I'm your host Jimmy

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all right welcome back pain to black I'm

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your host Jimmy church tonight I will be

643
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doing a review of Jeremy corbels new

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film bob lazar area 51 in flying saucers

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with wolf McCarran wolf is with us now

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couple of things wolf is one of the

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original researchers ad down at area 51

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over at area 51 and he videotaped just

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about every time he was out there that's

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one aspect of Wolf's career wolf also

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was one of the technical directors of

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MUFON Los Angeles for a number of years

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probably I don't even know it but

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probably a dozen or more and on our last

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season of the unexplained on History

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Channel we did a segment on area 51 and

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there was only one person to go and do

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that for us and that was wolf McCarran

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wolf welcome back to fade to black how

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yeah it was it was a lot of fun it was a

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lot of fun and the let's let's kind of

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start here wolf I almost want to do some

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of your background with everybody let's

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let's do that first when you first

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started going out to area 51 in the

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early 90s what what inspired you to

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start making those road trips out there

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well I was at I think I was at your full

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Expo West back then I used to hit up all

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those back in the day and I think it was

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at the 1992 Expo West for the 93 and

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that's the one that John we're actually

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spoke at and at that time there was an

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Oreo had like a little booth out there

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and actually Shawn Moore and had a booth

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out there too and you know norio had all

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these RTP was very 51 304 magazine

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through you know articles about lazar

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that were published in that but a you

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know Nuria was there was another one of

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the early area because when researchers

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of the Hansel died with five and yeah

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and you know I had all these pictures of

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the base and all that stuff so it kind

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of got me intrigued and as that time was

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already switched it over my research

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from you know just I got sick about

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reading about books about life

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in the sky you know your phone books and

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stuff and I wanted to you know I just

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wanted to go off to the military cuz I

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forgive anybody knew where was that it

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was definitely the military so I kind of

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switched gears with my research and

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started doing that and just got really

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hardcore Glee like learning about

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military secrets and black ops and stuff

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like that and so so that's what set me

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off like really like really just you

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know I hit the manorial a little bit we

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got along really great and I just

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started you know learning about how to

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get out there and that kind of thing and

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I started making trips out there my

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first trip was with that I think at 20

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before words with Shaun Morton we're are

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shining star you know big people charge

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people hundred bucks and take him out in

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the passenger ban out there so I went

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with a couple people and that was

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actually my first trip there he 51 was

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with Shaun and we're talking about Norio

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Hayakawa everybody and so you also

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decided and I find this one of the most

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interesting parts of of how you dealt

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with it out there you you got radios

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walkie-talkies of course video equipment

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and you decided to map out the the the

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area around area 51 where the

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checkpoints were where the guards were

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and their radio communications and you

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decided to have fun with those guys too

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pretty daring move are you surprised

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that you didn't get shot or get arrested

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after all those years I mean I got

726
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pulled over many times especially near

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Tonopah we got pulled over one incident

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with the guys you know after a while it

729
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was there for a while I acquired a team

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I think I started something a team of

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guys that had expertise in certain areas

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and I had one of the guys in my team the

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main guy was uh then he grew up outside

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of Edwards Air Force Base and he was you

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know he's basically had scanners and you

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know spying on Edwards for life you know

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basically his whole life and uh he was

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over you know he was a radio expert it's

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you know listening the frequencies and

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stuff so he was like my main guy we

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assembled a team of guys and a pilot

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from Sky West that needs to fly right

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near area 51 he used to monitor area 51

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from his plane while I was flying a crew

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of people

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you know into Vegas and we started

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assembling as a list of all the

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frequencies out there Tower ground

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frequency is back in the day if you have

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to understand it wasn't digital was all

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00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:11,460
analog so we're but it's happen to the

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00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:12,930
towers I can actually hear guys on the

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ground the ground crews even that was

754
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recording transmissions from the base

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for years while we're doing seeker

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missions I still have them you know and

757
00:38:25,579 --> 00:38:23,940
it's a lot of data to go through you

758
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:25,589
have to go through it but we were not

759
00:38:30,109 --> 00:38:28,049
only listening to what was going on out

760
00:38:34,009 --> 00:38:30,119
there we're actually recording it too so

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00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:34,019
did you get a chance to hang out or meet

762
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Bob Lazar well I met him actually it's a

763
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:39,480
little alien conference which was in

764
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:42,210
1993 oh yeah and one that I actually

765
00:38:46,249 --> 00:38:44,670
yeah that was a little alien conference

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and it's called the ultimate UFO seminar

767
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:49,019
and that was started by Nuria Alex iy

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and I think Gary Schultz had one who

769
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would promoted it better and yeah and

770
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:56,339
that's when I met him but I actually was

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:38:57,480
the only guy there's only two or three

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00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,690
guys that have the video of that actual

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00:39:03,739 --> 00:39:02,640
that actual seminar and actually I was

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00:39:05,749 --> 00:39:03,749
one of the guys so there's only two

775
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:05,759
videos I think on YouTube that exist and

776
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,529
one is this other guys and the other

777
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:09,359
one's mine but that's it there's only

778
00:39:12,859 --> 00:39:10,890
two people that have footage of that of

779
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:12,869
that actual seminar yeah I was I was

780
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:14,249
thinking about that last night during

781
00:39:20,299 --> 00:39:16,890
the film when they showed him at that

782
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:20,309
seminar yeah I was wondering if that was

783
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:22,950
your footage that wasn't your you would

784
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:31,950
have said something well yeah my footage

785
00:39:36,049 --> 00:39:34,440
is I've taken the I have some issues

786
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,059
with YouTube where I had to take down

787
00:39:39,979 --> 00:39:38,400
because I monetization issue so I had to

788
00:39:41,989 --> 00:39:39,989
restart again but I I should be

789
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:41,999
uploading to so your listeners know I'll

790
00:39:45,259 --> 00:39:43,049
probably be uploading you but the next

791
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:45,269
day or two the whole thing it'll be free

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:47,190
up there on my my YouTube account it's

793
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:50,970
called area 51 TV it's one word so it's

794
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:53,130
just YouTube good calm and type an area

795
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:55,890
51 TV and you can see all my videos up

796
00:40:00,499 --> 00:39:57,210
there and all the stuff I shot of the

797
00:40:01,849 --> 00:40:00,509
guards and black cops Black Hawks flying

798
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:01,859
over my head and all kinds of crazy

799
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stuff and a transmissions being recorded

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where you know meet Glenn and my friend

801
00:40:10,339 --> 00:40:08,640
broke through freedom Ridge the first

802
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:10,349
time and all kinds of crazy stuff so

803
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,089
it's all up there but I'm gonna post it

804
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,640
probably in the next couple of days okay

805
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:16,800
okay I'll get the links up there for

806
00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:19,290
that I'm gonna I'm not gonna fully throw

807
00:40:24,830 --> 00:40:22,500
you under the bus but I'm gonna I'm

808
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:24,840
gonna share with everybody just a taste

809
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:28,710
of what Wolfie is about this is probably

810
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:32,400
ten years ago maybe a little more I'm

811
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:34,710
over at wolfies house and we're having a

812
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:37,770
party and and Wolfie goes hey church man

813
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:39,930
you want to check out some stuff from

814
00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:43,320
area 51 I was like what because yeah so

815
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:45,300
anyway I'm not gonna say what it was but

816
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:50,070
but Wolfie breaks out some hardware and

817
00:41:01,099 --> 00:40:54,150
I'm like say what and and he swore me to

818
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:01,109
secrecy but knowing that you were on the

819
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:06,300
grounds a hold on that was a that was a

820
00:41:09,830 --> 00:41:08,310
sneeze that was the sneeze but everybody

821
00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:09,840
just saw that on the camera that was a

822
00:41:17,660 --> 00:41:15,030
real sneeze was the stuff that I saw all

823
00:41:19,579 --> 00:41:17,670
I could think about at that time Wolfie

824
00:41:22,339 --> 00:41:19,589
was there's only one way to get that

825
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:22,349
stuff right there's only one way that

826
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:24,270
you're not gonna get it in the mail

827
00:41:32,570 --> 00:41:28,050
right you don't order it online and and

828
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:32,580
my my my impression of you at that time

829
00:41:39,470 --> 00:41:36,330
is it takes it takes some pretty big

830
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:39,480
brass cojones to go out there and do

831
00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:41,670
that kind of stuff and and I've always

832
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,619
wanted to do it but Rita has held me

833
00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:44,880
back she doesn't want me to get in

834
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:48,470
trouble but you did do that and so when

835
00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:51,690
when the audience is listening to you

836
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:54,150
tonight I need to have them frame that

837
00:41:58,579 --> 00:41:56,010
in their mind if you don't mind Wolfie

838
00:42:01,540 --> 00:41:58,589
in that you were there you were out

839
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:01,550
there with norio and the crew and

840
00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:04,020
getting chased around by the guards and

841
00:42:09,050 --> 00:42:05,940
doing the best that you could to find

842
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:09,060
out what was going on and and there you

843
00:42:16,220 --> 00:42:13,140
go so that being said there are very few

844
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:16,230
people on this planet that know area51

845
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:20,880
as well as you do maybe not even Bob

846
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:24,720
Lazar right okay so if we look at it in

847
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:29,640
and we're gonna go through this tonight

848
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:35,350
when you see the old Bob versus what you

849
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:38,740
saw last night what do you think what

850
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:41,470
are your impressions of that is he is he

851
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:43,930
the same person or has he changed for

852
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:47,650
you over the years well he seems to be

853
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:48,280
the same guy

854
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:50,590
kinda you know Sixtus story always does

855
00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:53,290
but uh a lot of people think that's like

856
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,540
something to be said like oh he he tells

857
00:43:00,540 --> 00:42:57,540
the same story but that's not really

858
00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:00,550
necessarily - billy meier never for

859
00:43:04,530 --> 00:43:01,900
instance if anybody knows billy meier

860
00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:04,540
case he's never switched his story the

861
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:06,700
reed case the reed UFO case which is

862
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:07,270
crazy

863
00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:09,730
he's never changed his story so just

864
00:43:12,570 --> 00:43:10,900
because he didn't seen his story doesn't

865
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:12,580
mean he's not telling the truth or not

866
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:15,310
and you know everybody wants you know

867
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:17,350
he's a likable guy he'll everybody wants

868
00:43:22,290 --> 00:43:19,210
to believe the story there are some

869
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:22,300
inconsistencies with the story a lot and

870
00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:23,890
I was always on the fence with bizarre

871
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:27,880
and you know his past and and you know

872
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:31,180
his MIT and it's Caltech degrees things

873
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:33,850
like that you know I guess we can get

874
00:43:38,780 --> 00:43:35,770
into that a little bit it's like you

875
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:38,790
know lets you know a lot of people yeah

876
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:43,300
let me jump in let's get into that quite

877
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:45,610
a bit later because there is so much to

878
00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:48,640
discuss in this film and that is one of

879
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:51,070
the important aspects of it and so what

880
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:55,390
we'll get to that now but let's let's

881
00:44:01,650 --> 00:43:58,090
talk about last night we're downtown

882
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:01,660
it's the the Ace Hotel downtown in a

883
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:06,370
theater that seats 1600 I was there you

884
00:44:10,890 --> 00:44:08,650
and I sat next to each other

885
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:10,900
and I don't think there was an empty

886
00:44:15,390 --> 00:44:13,810
seat that theater was sold out and it

887
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:15,400
was massive

888
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:17,530
did that surprise you and what did you

889
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:20,830
think about the choice of venues no I

890
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:22,150
thought it was great it's a beautiful

891
00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:23,410
theater I had never been in that one

892
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:24,460
I've been in a lot of theaters in

893
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:26,770
Hollywood but that was quite a beautiful

894
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:28,300
one and and they just the architecture

895
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:30,430
in that place is really amazing but no I

896
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:32,170
was I was really stoked that he you know

897
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:33,820
they sold it out like they did that was

898
00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:36,550
great I think it was good for the you

899
00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:38,020
know for the cause and everything and al

900
00:44:40,930 --> 00:44:39,880
I think a lot more people I mean a lot

901
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:40,940
more people are interested in

902
00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:42,470
yopo and all this type of stuff now

903
00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:44,060
because of the cousin shows like ancient

904
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,980
aliens and all the reality shows it

905
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:47,359
wasn't like it was back in the day when

906
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:49,670
we went to your folk inventions in 92

907
00:44:54,130 --> 00:44:51,829
and 93 there weren't you know yeah you

908
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:54,140
could you know it's like sometimes you

909
00:44:57,609 --> 00:44:55,730
find a handful of people you know that

910
00:44:59,170 --> 00:44:57,619
we're into it because you know now now

911
00:45:01,300 --> 00:44:59,180
that there's TV and reality shows and

912
00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:01,310
stuff that's blown up like big-time you

913
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:03,470
know I always tell people you know that

914
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,089
I mean I go look you know dude I was

915
00:45:10,270 --> 00:45:06,800
doing YouTube before there was YouTube

916
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:10,280
okay so he you know mm-hmm so but yeah

917
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:11,930
it's just he's blowing up big-time you

918
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:17,089
know and the age group of everybody last

919
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:18,650
night I found that to be pretty

920
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:21,710
impressive too in that I think everybody

921
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:25,010
was represented you know every you know

922
00:45:31,450 --> 00:45:28,190
from your 20s you know all the way up to

923
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:31,460
you know people my age but that was that

924
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:33,410
was pretty that was pretty impressive to

925
00:45:42,910 --> 00:45:40,730
see such a diversified crowd yeah they

926
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:42,920
definitely promoted it right so it was

927
00:45:47,380 --> 00:45:44,930
it was it was it was you know he was

928
00:45:49,089 --> 00:45:47,390
promoted right I think you know so but

929
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:49,099
it was a it was a it was a good night to

930
00:45:51,790 --> 00:45:50,450
be out with all those people and stuff

931
00:45:54,849 --> 00:45:51,800
looks good hung out a little bit longer

932
00:45:59,290 --> 00:45:54,859
but uh that was that you know so yeah we

933
00:46:01,569 --> 00:45:59,300
were we were there till probably 1:30 I

934
00:46:05,290 --> 00:46:01,579
think when we left something like that

935
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:05,300
130 now I had mentioned at the beginning

936
00:46:13,809 --> 00:46:09,470
of the show tonight that we've had a lot

937
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,819
of films lately like serious and

938
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:16,160
unacknowledged and recently above

939
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:17,690
majestic and of course the hump for

940
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:20,240
skinwalker now Bob Lazar 51 in flying

941
00:46:27,490 --> 00:46:24,770
saucers a lot of a lot of documentaries

942
00:46:30,099 --> 00:46:27,500
being backed up by major Hollywood

943
00:46:32,859 --> 00:46:30,109
studios right now what do you think is

944
00:46:35,319 --> 00:46:32,869
going on it's this part of what is

945
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:35,329
happening with disclosure why the sudden

946
00:46:38,849 --> 00:46:37,430
interest from the movie studios and in

947
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,859
this subject

948
00:46:42,099 --> 00:46:40,640
well I think there's always been an

949
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:42,109
interest but I just think it's kind of

950
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:44,720
coming back a little bit more and I'm

951
00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:46,250
sure this film will actually maybe push

952
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,980
more area 51 in lazar stuff too it's

953
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:52,960
just I don't

954
00:46:56,910 --> 00:46:54,790
I mean you know you know my taking us

955
00:46:58,859 --> 00:46:56,920
closer on a buying Danny of it um

956
00:47:00,089 --> 00:46:58,869
everybody talks about disclosure and

957
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:00,099
it's gonna happen and they talk about

958
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:02,830
even the new UFO footage that was the

959
00:47:06,780 --> 00:47:04,150
people always say was released by the

960
00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:06,790
Pentagon it was not it was released it

961
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:08,470
wasn't the Pentagon gonna come out and

962
00:47:12,839 --> 00:47:10,270
say hey this is this you know the co

963
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:12,849
footage is we believe in UFOs and the

964
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:15,310
ryona here here it was released by that

965
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:17,800
we were organization through you know

966
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:19,420
through the senator through it and

967
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Senator Hurley really by the Pentagon so

968
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:24,130
it's not really a nice closure you know

969
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:25,359
and there's some problems I have with

970
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:28,480
with the with the what's the name from

971
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:30,490
blink and and some of that stuff going

972
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:32,470
on but uh I don't think it's the

973
00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:33,400
school's I just think there's a huge

974
00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:35,109
interesting and there's always going to

975
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:37,060
be an interest in this field and I just

976
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:39,670
think it's a you know I think it's good

977
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:41,230
you know the more the better but I just

978
00:47:43,890 --> 00:47:42,310
think with all the you know ancient

979
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:43,900
aliens all these shows it just got more

980
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:46,450
it just gotten more you know it's just

981
00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:47,020
gotten bigger

982
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:48,430
you know since of all that stuff you

983
00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:49,930
know the internet and all that because

984
00:47:53,339 --> 00:47:51,820
we're doing stuff free internet you know

985
00:47:55,050 --> 00:47:53,349
when there was no you remember being a

986
00:48:00,300 --> 00:47:55,060
parent and all that stuff right you know

987
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:00,310
yeah yeah blood perronnette document

988
00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:06,040
Amin was scared of perronnette I

989
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:08,339
couldn't wait to get home from work I

990
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:11,200
just couldn't wait to sign it and and

991
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:13,690
and see what was what was happening

992
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,510
there I the internet was such and this

993
00:48:20,579 --> 00:48:17,440
is the truth

994
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:20,589
the internet was such a scary place back

995
00:48:29,930 --> 00:48:22,990
then it was so misunderstood I didn't

996
00:48:37,099 --> 00:48:34,859
but compared to today right and so you

997
00:48:40,109 --> 00:48:37,109
know perronnette and some of my early

998
00:48:43,710 --> 00:48:40,119
experiences on the internet I was a bit

999
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,720
freaked out I just assumed that somebody

1000
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:45,760
who's watching all of my keystrokes I

1001
00:48:50,130 --> 00:48:47,890
assume somebody everybody knew where I

1002
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:50,140
lived just because I signed onto

1003
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:51,849
perronnette I just you know I just

1004
00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:53,800
assumed these things parent it really

1005
00:48:57,660 --> 00:48:55,420
freaked me out but I just felt like it

1006
00:49:00,450 --> 00:48:57,670
was it was like the forbidden fruit

1007
00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:00,460
right we weren't supposed to be sharing

1008
00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:02,230
this kind of stuff you had to go out and

1009
00:49:08,370 --> 00:49:04,990
and and buy stuff at the books

1010
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,380
or get the latest UFO magazine or dig up

1011
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,960
some kind of video somewhere but not

1012
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:13,119
sharing this stuff freely like what was

1013
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:14,830
happening I'm pairing it back in the day

1014
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:16,770
you know I

1015
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,300
yeah and I know things that would me and

1016
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:21,040
my team except there's like as you know

1017
00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:22,570
I've been I've been like pretty much

1018
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:24,100
under the radar for almost 30 years

1019
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:26,290
because a lot of people don't know my

1020
00:49:29,609 --> 00:49:27,670
name because of what I was doing out at

1021
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:29,619
area 51 I couldn't really talk about

1022
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:31,090
what I was doing out there are kind of

1023
00:49:35,340 --> 00:49:33,730
like you know post recordings of the

1024
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:35,350
secret missions that I was recording out

1025
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:36,850
there so I had to late a little key I

1026
00:49:40,859 --> 00:49:39,010
got off to the do tons of TV and stuff

1027
00:49:43,590 --> 00:49:40,869
back in the day and I always had to turn

1028
00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:43,600
it down you know so it's not so recently

1029
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:44,920
that I started coming out with because

1030
00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:47,050
it's been like 30 years it's been after

1031
00:49:50,850 --> 00:49:49,540
that figure okay you know times have

1032
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:50,860
changed a little bit and people have to

1033
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:51,970
understand what I was doing all this

1034
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:54,490
crazy stuff it was pre 9/11 so the

1035
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:57,130
security wasn't is is you know was still

1036
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,810
gnarly but it wasn't as gnarly as it is

1037
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:00,640
now after 9/11 to changed everything out

1038
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:02,050
there with the sites and every all the

1039
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:03,880
other bases and security gotten

1040
00:50:07,530 --> 00:50:05,950
tightened a lot more I couldn't get out

1041
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:07,540
I couldn't get away with half the crap

1042
00:50:11,099 --> 00:50:09,430
that it did back then that I do now you

1043
00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:11,109
know that I did back then that it that

1044
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:13,500
they do out there now so you know but

1045
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:16,420
yeah it was a great time yeah plus they

1046
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:19,480
they didn't do the land-grab yet so you

1047
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:22,390
could still get right really yeah you

1048
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:24,970
could get reasonably close you know you

1049
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:26,950
had to do some hiking you had to do some

1050
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:28,869
driving but if you knew where to go like

1051
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:31,180
you did you were able to take your

1052
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:35,010
cameras and all your friends right up on

1053
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:37,630
one white side you know white side

1054
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:40,810
Mountain back in 95 and then in 94 and

1055
00:50:45,590 --> 00:50:43,690
93 I was climbing white sides and that

1056
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:45,600
was the first mountain they simply said

1057
00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:48,970
4895 and they basically kissed you know

1058
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:50,500
me and a couple other guys off the damn

1059
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:51,940
mountains I said ìweíre a thorn in their

1060
00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:53,410
side they couldn't they couldn't even

1061
00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:55,060
test why anything because they knew were

1062
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:57,190
up on the mountain you know right so we

1063
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:58,810
never scanners up there and they you

1064
00:51:01,830 --> 00:50:59,920
know they'd be calling the sheriff's the

1065
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:01,840
gardens and stuff and you know I'd be

1066
00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:03,100
having my scanner listening them your

1067
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:04,420
tap into the sheriff frequency so we

1068
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:05,740
hear him call the sheriff we'd be out of

1069
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,630
there before the sheriff came to get us

1070
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:09,040
so I'd be out of it I get down the

1071
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:10,810
mountain and had all my cameras on all

1072
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:12,910
my gear and gone you know by the time he

1073
00:51:17,550 --> 00:51:15,070
got there and then they also took

1074
00:51:18,140 --> 00:51:17,560
freedom bridge which was you know which

1075
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:18,150
was

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:20,830
in 95 - that took another four thousand

1077
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:23,050
acres so it took 8,000 acres total you

1078
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:25,330
know the two closest peaks which were

1079
00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:28,690
like a 12 mile throw for Mary 51 yeah

1080
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,030
and and with the right with the right

1081
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:34,240
you know scoping binoculars or or

1082
00:51:41,130 --> 00:51:37,450
telescopes you had a straight shot right

1083
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:41,140
down into the top of area 51 oh yeah

1084
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:43,090
yeah it was amazing I miss I miss I miss

1085
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:45,790
condos now I miss that real man it was a

1086
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:47,110
great view we sit up there with lawn

1087
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:49,330
chairs you know and sit there like like

1088
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:51,550
six seven eight hours a day yeah longer

1089
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:53,410
to the base you know in broad daylight

1090
00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:55,210
and and the guards were right across

1091
00:51:58,650 --> 00:51:56,500
them with some another mountain range

1092
00:52:01,110 --> 00:51:58,660
looking at us were looking at them all

1093
00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:01,120
day long you know what I mean man yeah

1094
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,750
yeah my video cameras and backpacks and

1095
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:06,160
stuff to the lens sticking out because

1096
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:08,170
if they saw me put a camera on my

1097
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:09,670
shoulder or anything they you know they

1098
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:11,290
freaked out me call it sheriff but I

1099
00:52:16,610 --> 00:52:12,400
could always hightail it out of there

1100
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:16,620
before the sheriff ever came you know so

1101
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:22,690
so this movie which was if when this

1102
00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:25,570
community and you know hears about

1103
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:29,350
Jeremy corbels lazar movie which he's

1104
00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:31,810
had the clips of it up on his website

1105
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:34,420
extraordinary release for for quite a

1106
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:36,100
long time so we knew the movie was

1107
00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:38,890
coming but net when it became eminent

1108
00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:40,300
and tickets were announced you're

1109
00:52:43,590 --> 00:52:42,190
writing me you know Church and all those

1110
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:43,600
that we got to go do this of course we

1111
00:52:50,970 --> 00:52:47,110
were but your expectations like

1112
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:50,980
everybody else's are very very very high

1113
00:52:59,580 --> 00:52:55,260
I want to start at the beginning here

1114
00:53:02,040 --> 00:52:59,590
what were you expecting with this film

1115
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,050
not getting into the details but what

1116
00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:04,480
were you what were you hoping for going

1117
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,150
in well I was hoping for maybe some you

1118
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:11,920
know like you know some people that

1119
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:14,800
maybe some newer you know newer people

1120
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:16,030
that maybe come forward to corroborate

1121
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:17,830
his claims or whatever that kind of

1122
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:20,230
thing right and I wanted to keep you

1123
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,820
know an open mind and just kind of watch

1124
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:23,200
it but just like that watching with you

1125
00:53:25,770 --> 00:53:24,580
and just kind of you know really seeing

1126
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:25,780
the nothing and just kind of wanted to

1127
00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:28,300
watch and see what I have to take myself

1128
00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:30,340
out of myself because a lot of people

1129
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:32,380
don't know or you know I'm a filmer

1130
00:53:35,790 --> 00:53:34,210
so I've worked in the industry since I

1131
00:53:37,710 --> 00:53:35,800
was you know 18

1132
00:53:39,090 --> 00:53:37,720
so working Sony worked at Warner

1133
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:39,100
Brothers I mean the editors guild I've

1134
00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:40,210
done you know I've done movies

1135
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:42,220
commercials and my own post-production

1136
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:44,560
business for 15 years so I know how to

1137
00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:46,450
do these things that you know film

1138
00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:48,280
editing and all that stuff so but I

1139
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:49,660
still took it like I'm gonna watch like

1140
00:53:53,970 --> 00:53:51,370
that and I'm not gonna like try to

1141
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:53,980
nitpick as film or documentary into that

1142
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:55,300
stuff I'm just gonna watch it for what

1143
00:53:59,130 --> 00:53:57,010
it is and that's what I did

1144
00:54:03,360 --> 00:53:59,140
you know but I also looked at from the

1145
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:03,370
lose our side of you know of the stories

1146
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:04,690
and that and trying to see if there's

1147
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:05,950
you know like a curtain still on the

1148
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:07,210
fence with it I guess we can get more

1149
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:12,160
into that you know well so you just went

1150
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:14,910
in with an open mind and you you didn't

1151
00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:19,560
you didn't plan on getting upset or or

1152
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:22,270
bounding with joy oh yeah I just wanted

1153
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:24,010
to stay kind of neutral to it and then

1154
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:26,290
and then kind of put my thoughts

1155
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:28,030
together today all day today before we

1156
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:29,560
did the show and I just wanted to kind

1157
00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:31,510
of assemble some notes and stuff so I

1158
00:54:36,770 --> 00:54:33,100
had some notes about some things that I

1159
00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:36,780
think of what my take of you know of

1160
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:39,460
what kind of might have happened within

1161
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:44,470
you know my yeah my expectations

1162
00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:47,710
look it's Jeremy Korbel the guy knows

1163
00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:50,560
how to frame a shot he's very artistic

1164
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,060
he his stuff is just so colorful and it

1165
00:54:59,700 --> 00:54:57,280
just looks different I've watched every

1166
00:55:02,060 --> 00:54:59,710
one of his movies except for a

1167
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:02,070
skinwalker I've only seen pieces of it

1168
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:07,270
and so I knew that that part of it was

1169
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:10,030
going to be covered the question that I

1170
00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:13,600
had is you have Bob Lazar at your

1171
00:55:19,290 --> 00:55:16,360
disposal right you got a clean slate

1172
00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:19,300
with Bob do you take advantage of that

1173
00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:22,030
do we take things to the next level and

1174
00:55:27,870 --> 00:55:25,780
so I went in with that expectation I

1175
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:27,880
thought that it's a once-in-a-lifetime

1176
00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:30,160
thing I don't think you get you get to

1177
00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:32,740
you're gonna get to go back to the Bob

1178
00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:35,560
Lazar well a second time you know and do

1179
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:38,590
Bob Lazar part two maybe but I don't

1180
00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:41,890
think so and so do you let it all hang

1181
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:42,520
out

1182
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:44,710
is it all going to be in this film and

1183
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:48,220
as Jeremy weaponize your curiosity okay

1184
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:51,490
hey I I went in thinking this could be

1185
00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:54,100
the one this this could actually be the

1186
00:55:59,100 --> 00:55:57,250
one and that's my fault all right that's

1187
00:56:03,710 --> 00:55:59,110
my fault you shouldn't go in looking

1188
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:03,720
like that because I have always always

1189
00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:07,450
believed Bob lazarre's story in its

1190
00:56:14,910 --> 00:56:11,880
general sense how we got there the MIT

1191
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Caltech stuff always a big question mark

1192
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:16,450
I live in the valley Pierce College

1193
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,210
along with you we know all of the names

1194
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:21,280
and the things and Caltech is right down

1195
00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:23,350
the street as well this is our

1196
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:26,440
neighborhood and so those question marks

1197
00:56:35,070 --> 00:56:31,410
were always there but I just wanted to

1198
00:56:37,350 --> 00:56:35,080
give Bob the fair shake that he had that

1199
00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:37,360
I felt that he deserved I watched

1200
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:39,670
everything that he had done over the

1201
00:56:45,660 --> 00:56:42,490
years and I thought that he can present

1202
00:56:47,610 --> 00:56:45,670
it a pretty convincing argument on the

1203
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:47,620
propulsion system on what he saw how he

1204
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:50,350
got there how he got in how long he was

1205
00:56:55,950 --> 00:56:53,050
there he had a w-2 he had a badge

1206
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:55,960
whether he was there for a day a week a

1207
00:57:00,960 --> 00:56:59,440
weekday you know well the bad was that

1208
00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:00,970
that he made you know it's not the

1209
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:03,400
original badge that's what he he made

1210
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:05,410
that himself a cut-and-paste job of what

1211
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:07,600
the badge he wanted to show people what

1212
00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:10,090
did he not remember that looked like so

1213
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:12,100
the badge is not original now the w2

1214
00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:14,980
since he was my take on it was cut and

1215
00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:17,260
paste in a badge I think he might have

1216
00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:20,230
even mocked up that w2 okay

1217
00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:22,180
supposedly the social security number of

1218
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:25,000
that w2 belongs to a woman from New York

1219
00:57:37,590 --> 00:57:33,660
I you know okay well we'll talk about

1220
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:37,600
that in a little bit I need to take a

1221
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:39,910
break right here but one more I'm back

1222
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:43,530
one of the things that I thought that

1223
00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:46,570
they just kind of let go last night in

1224
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:49,870
the movie spoiler alert here everybody

1225
00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:53,320
okay if you haven't seen it the badge is

1226
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:55,180
shown in the movie

1227
00:58:02,220 --> 00:57:59,440
and back not talked about not handled

1228
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:02,230
but they did show the front and the back

1229
00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:05,170
and I thought that we were getting ready

1230
00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:08,440
to you know have Bob show us the badge

1231
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:12,040
and explain it to us okay and it just

1232
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:14,350
didn't happen and I was very just but I

1233
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,930
had never seen the back of the badge

1234
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:18,400
before last night had you seen the back

1235
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:28,450
of the badge no I will talk about that

1236
00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:29,170
when we come back

1237
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:31,000
this is fade to black our guest tonight

1238
00:58:37,050 --> 00:58:33,490
wolf McCarran wolf one of the original

1239
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:37,060
area 51 researchers video guys that shot

1240
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:38,980
area 51 back in the day I'll be right

1241
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:41,320
back this is fade to black we're doing a

1242
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:44,230
review on Jeremy corbels new film Bob

1243
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:44,740
Lazar

1244
00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:47,230
area 51 and flying saucers we'll be

1245
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:48,940
right back after this short break stay

1246
00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:55,280
this is fade to black

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00:59:01,100 --> 00:58:57,420
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[Applause]

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am your host Amy Church tonight I am

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reviewing Jeremy corbels new film Bob

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01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:24,450
Lazar area51 of flying saucers with wolf

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01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:26,790
McCarran one of the original area 51

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01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:30,000
researchers we were both there last

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01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:32,640
night and the film okay this was a

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01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:37,710
spectacular event the hotel unbelievable

1367
01:04:44,330 --> 01:04:41,849
the size the the enormity of it

1368
01:04:47,230 --> 01:04:44,340
it was great to witness and to see

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01:04:52,250 --> 01:04:47,240
everybody thousands come together well

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01:04:54,859 --> 01:04:52,260
1,600 in the audience and the the place

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01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:54,869
was packed but Jan Harz an from MUFON

1372
01:04:59,660 --> 01:04:58,050
was there Kerry Cassidy was there of

1373
01:05:03,530 --> 01:04:59,670
course wolf McCarran was there

1374
01:05:07,490 --> 01:05:03,540
Alex Mastretta was investment yeah

1375
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:07,500
Yvonne Smith was there and of course

1376
01:05:16,849 --> 01:05:11,130
Steve Murillo was there and last night

1377
01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:16,859
as we were leaving I met Tyler Glockner

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01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:20,790
from secure team ten and that was really

1379
01:05:27,470 --> 01:05:24,540
cool him and I had a chance to actually

1380
01:05:29,210 --> 01:05:27,480
chat for a minute that was that was

1381
01:05:32,060 --> 01:05:29,220
really cool so knee of course in the

1382
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:32,070
orchard was there in force but it was

1383
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:34,140
definitely a star-studded event

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01:05:39,859 --> 01:05:37,200
everybody from ufology certainly here in

1385
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:39,869
Los Angeles was there and we met

1386
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:43,170
upstairs when we took over the roof a

1387
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:46,680
lot of people from out of state that

1388
01:05:51,820 --> 01:05:49,710
were coming up in saying hello I met

1389
01:05:55,930 --> 01:05:51,830
some people from Cincinnati from

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01:05:59,810 --> 01:05:55,940
Minnesota South Dakota Washington

1391
01:06:02,030 --> 01:05:59,820
Florida that that all came in from out

1392
01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:02,040
of state and and that that was very very

1393
01:06:07,870 --> 01:06:03,720
very impressive everybody had their

1394
01:06:11,450 --> 01:06:07,880
posters and and it was just a huge huge

1395
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:11,460
premiere at that part of it was knocked

1396
01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:13,050
out of the park there was just no

1397
01:06:19,550 --> 01:06:14,700
question about it

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01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:19,560
now I started to mention wolf that and I

1399
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:22,680
really want to get a little bit serious

1400
01:06:30,620 --> 01:06:25,530
here for a second and that is

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01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:30,630
I feel that the movie was not a

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01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:35,160
documentary that it was a tribute and

1403
01:06:41,020 --> 01:06:38,310
that there is a difference here that you

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:41,030
know when you use the word documentary

1405
01:06:47,090 --> 01:06:43,650
people make assumptions at that point

1406
01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:47,100
documentary means documents okay that's

1407
01:06:54,859 --> 01:06:51,660
what documentary means and so however

1408
01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:54,869
you want to approach it that's where the

1409
01:07:01,760 --> 01:06:59,460
name came from this I felt was different

1410
01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:01,770
I also feel that it was appropriate if

1411
01:07:07,070 --> 01:07:03,420
that's the film that you want to make

1412
01:07:09,590 --> 01:07:07,080
that's that Jeremy succeeded in that he

1413
01:07:12,410 --> 01:07:09,600
succeeded in making a pretty good a

1414
01:07:14,570 --> 01:07:12,420
pretty cool tribute film when I say

1415
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:14,580
something like that what do you think do

1416
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,530
you think it was a documentary or a

1417
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:19,680
tribute well more like when you said

1418
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:21,090
like more of a tribute I mean you can

1419
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:23,430
tell that Jeremy was a fanboy two of

1420
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:25,890
lazar I mean there's no question he's a

1421
01:07:30,410 --> 01:07:28,980
fanboy so he kind of buys he was kind of

1422
01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:30,420
buying into those are things you know

1423
01:07:39,890 --> 01:07:34,100
before I think he even made the thing so

1424
01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:39,900
I I didn't find it interesting that he

1425
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:42,270
kind of you know like he said the first

1426
01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:43,710
45 minutes nothing seemed to really

1427
01:07:46,730 --> 01:07:45,000
happen much in the movie I think it

1428
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:46,740
could I think the editing could have

1429
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:50,490
been a little quicker but you know

1430
01:07:54,109 --> 01:07:51,690
there's some things where he kind of

1431
01:07:56,540 --> 01:07:54,119
puts himself in the movie a little too

1432
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:56,550
much that I thought and I thought there

1433
01:08:00,890 --> 01:07:58,650
was a lot of the old nap footage that

1434
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:00,900
was being used was a little too much too

1435
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:03,420
much I looked I guess that he gotta tell

1436
01:08:06,590 --> 01:08:04,890
people that don't know who the Tsar is

1437
01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:06,600
you know his kind of background and all

1438
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:08,790
that and in but I just thought some

1439
01:08:12,590 --> 01:08:10,410
stuff was a little long and a little

1440
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:12,600
played out a little bit too much that

1441
01:08:16,999 --> 01:08:14,730
was one of the points oh and a quick

1442
01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:17,009
disclaimer for everybody wolf and I

1443
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:21,270
after the movie ended we did not discuss

1444
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:23,970
the film we have not discussed the film

1445
01:08:27,890 --> 01:08:25,890
until this very moment

1446
01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:27,900
on the show okay and that is that's a

1447
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:30,450
very serious point here I'm getting

1448
01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:32,470
Wolf's

1449
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:35,030
opinions on the film and how we felt

1450
01:08:39,970 --> 01:08:36,530
about it right now in real time along

1451
01:08:44,829 --> 01:08:39,980
with everybody else I will agree with

1452
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:44,839
you wolf that I found myself after the

1453
01:08:50,980 --> 01:08:47,839
initial setup of the film okay and you

1454
01:08:54,670 --> 01:08:50,990
expect certain things which is fine

1455
01:08:59,950 --> 01:08:54,680
that I was checking my watch and it was

1456
01:09:04,210 --> 01:08:59,960
a full 45 minutes before it took off and

1457
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:04,220
running and I thought that that was a

1458
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:06,890
bit much for me it was a little bit too

1459
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:10,370
much setup you that that's my take on it

1460
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:12,770
you're a film editor why would you wait

1461
01:09:21,730 --> 01:09:16,880
45 minutes to to get to something in the

1462
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:21,740
film well I wanted but a you know it's

1463
01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:23,510
just a way that I guess it's styled the

1464
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:25,490
way that he thought you know he should

1465
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:28,490
do it you know I would have done it

1466
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:31,570
quite differently the stuff with them

1467
01:09:37,420 --> 01:09:35,570
the narrator which was Mickey Rourke you

1468
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:37,430
know that stuff seemed to be once he I

1469
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:39,280
think he kind of pretty much made the

1470
01:09:44,770 --> 01:09:42,770
documentary straight out and then he met

1471
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:44,780
Mickey workin and had him kind of

1472
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:46,130
dubbing his little lines and just kind

1473
01:09:50,980 --> 01:09:49,130
of talk to him throughout the you know

1474
01:09:52,570 --> 01:09:50,990
the rest of the movie just to you know

1475
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,580
he needed a name for the for the

1476
01:09:56,740 --> 01:09:54,080
documentary and that's all good and fine

1477
01:09:58,210 --> 01:09:56,750
because you need a name in a name of a

1478
01:10:00,160 --> 01:09:58,220
person to stick into the movie to get

1479
01:10:01,540 --> 01:10:00,170
get some type of interest so I that

1480
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:01,550
stuff's okay I'm cool with that

1481
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:05,360
but Mickey work you know and you know

1482
01:10:08,230 --> 01:10:06,770
when you hear him speak he something

1483
01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:08,240
like marble mouth he's very hard to

1484
01:10:11,650 --> 01:10:09,800
understand I thought that should have

1485
01:10:13,180 --> 01:10:11,660
been the subtitles it was really

1486
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:13,190
difficult just to hear Mickey work in

1487
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:15,890
the the narration at the movie you know

1488
01:10:23,820 --> 01:10:17,810
it's interesting you say that because I

1489
01:10:28,750 --> 01:10:23,830
had the same the same opinion and when I

1490
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,760
Mickey was speaking last night once

1491
01:10:33,580 --> 01:10:31,280
everybody kind of saw what was going on

1492
01:10:35,590 --> 01:10:33,590
there there's a lot of giggling that was

1493
01:10:37,210 --> 01:10:35,600
going on when he started to do his

1494
01:10:40,450 --> 01:10:37,220
narration because nobody could

1495
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:40,460
understand what he was saying there was

1496
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:42,770
pretty interesting but this is this was

1497
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:45,440
my take which is very similar to your

1498
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:47,930
again wolf and I have not discussed this

1499
01:10:55,630 --> 01:10:53,210
is that it felt to me that Mickey Rourke

1500
01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:55,640
was an afterthought and I don't mean

1501
01:11:00,670 --> 01:10:58,070
that in a negative way but you could

1502
01:11:04,810 --> 01:11:00,680
tell that the movie was finished it was

1503
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:04,820
done and then I could be wrong and you

1504
01:11:09,490 --> 01:11:06,410
and I could both be wrong here but it

1505
01:11:12,189 --> 01:11:09,500
don't like Mickey was brought in after

1506
01:11:15,130 --> 01:11:12,199
the fact and had his parts added to the

1507
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:15,140
film and they didn't need to be there

1508
01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:18,410
they they just added nothing to the film

1509
01:11:24,610 --> 01:11:21,350
but this is the thing once you bring in

1510
01:11:27,370 --> 01:11:24,620
a guy like Mickey Rourke and it doesn't

1511
01:11:29,620 --> 01:11:27,380
work out how do you take him out of the

1512
01:11:32,770 --> 01:11:29,630
film I'm not gonna tell Mickey Rourke

1513
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:32,780
that we that we cut his parts who's

1514
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:36,710
gonna go tell Mickey Rourke that we

1515
01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:38,750
didn't use your stuff in the film so

1516
01:11:44,979 --> 01:11:41,630
you're kind of stuck in a weird position

1517
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:44,989
there I am sure that and I'm and I mean

1518
01:11:50,350 --> 01:11:47,570
this with nothing negative towards the

1519
01:11:53,229 --> 01:11:50,360
orchard or Jeremy they're not stupid

1520
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:53,239
guys they're watching the same film and

1521
01:11:58,450 --> 01:11:55,280
listening to the same film as we are and

1522
01:12:02,080 --> 01:11:58,460
they're going home and this this this

1523
01:12:04,330 --> 01:12:02,090
this isn't good but you're stuck you

1524
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:04,340
know it's Mickey Rourke and and what are

1525
01:12:14,350 --> 01:12:06,410
you gonna do at that point so Mickey

1526
01:12:16,510 --> 01:12:14,360
stays in lines over actually right me

1527
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:16,520
personally yeah I mean I hear an audio

1528
01:12:20,590 --> 01:12:18,530
engineer you know yeah I would have made

1529
01:12:23,050 --> 01:12:20,600
him do it over many times as he could

1530
01:12:24,939 --> 01:12:23,060
until he got I don't have any issues

1531
01:12:26,650 --> 01:12:24,949
with telling any singer that he didn't

1532
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:26,660
sing his parts right that he's got to do

1533
01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:30,800
them again and I it's gotten ugly with

1534
01:12:35,650 --> 01:12:33,800
me in the studio but sometimes and and

1535
01:12:39,660 --> 01:12:35,660
you know what most people want to take

1536
01:12:42,610 --> 01:12:39,670
direction they need that you know and I

1537
01:12:45,850 --> 01:12:42,620
felt like Mickey needed some direction

1538
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:45,860
but it just didn't happen and so that

1539
01:12:51,190 --> 01:12:48,410
was a that was a part for the film that

1540
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:51,200
when you have

1541
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:54,570
you have an opportunity there to take

1542
01:12:58,100 --> 01:12:56,010
advantage of a guy like Mickey Rourke

1543
01:12:59,810 --> 01:12:58,110
well then you make it right and if it's

1544
01:13:02,690 --> 01:12:59,820
not right take it out of the film don't

1545
01:13:05,780 --> 01:13:02,700
let it detract because in the end

1546
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:05,790
Mickey started to detract from the film

1547
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:09,600
now I want to ask you this did you think

1548
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,400
the film was ready right or do you think

1549
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:16,320
it could have stayed in post for another

1550
01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:18,390
two three weeks to tighten all of this

1551
01:13:23,090 --> 01:13:21,900
stuff up I don't know I think he had it

1552
01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:23,100
ready and then I think he might have

1553
01:13:27,530 --> 01:13:25,380
added the Mickey after the fact that's

1554
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:27,540
what I think good enough to get you know

1555
01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:30,810
no I'm talking about over overall all of

1556
01:13:38,450 --> 01:13:33,540
the editing all of the audio tracks the

1557
01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:38,460
music the balance yeah well I think that

1558
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:40,140
you know I think everybody has a

1559
01:13:44,540 --> 01:13:41,940
different style I mean he seems to be

1560
01:13:45,710 --> 01:13:44,550
like a one-stop-shop down a guy like he

1561
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:45,720
does you know he's doing everything

1562
01:13:50,210 --> 01:13:48,210
himself and sometimes that's not good

1563
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:50,220
like for instance I'm colored wine I

1564
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:52,080
can't colorize the movie I just can't do

1565
01:13:56,750 --> 01:13:54,930
it and and I don't do it because I'm not

1566
01:13:59,090 --> 01:13:56,760
into it I'm strictly in the editing and

1567
01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:59,100
I have an audio experience background

1568
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:00,900
too because it's been doing audio and

1569
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:03,450
video you know practically it's just

1570
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:05,510
digital etting started on the computers

1571
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:08,340
so you know I still could do audio too

1572
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:10,290
but there's always certain guys that if

1573
01:14:12,620 --> 01:14:11,280
they're good at editing they should

1574
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:12,630
stick to editing you know there's good

1575
01:14:17,150 --> 01:14:15,210
guys at a great shooting it graded being

1576
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:17,160
DPS and all that stuff they should stick

1577
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:19,020
to that we've guys have try to do

1578
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:20,850
everything I'm a writer I'm an editor it

1579
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:22,980
just doesn't fly to me man stick to what

1580
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,510
you're doing good if you can't do audio

1581
01:14:28,820 --> 01:14:26,520
get a great audio guy do when your audio

1582
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:28,830
you know but these guys are trying to do

1583
01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:30,210
everything sometimes that's where they

1584
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:33,000
lose things because if you're a good

1585
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:35,130
director stick to that you know yeah but

1586
01:14:39,380 --> 01:14:38,010
you try to do everything it just there's

1587
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:39,390
always something that falls apart if you

1588
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:41,130
get one of my drift yeah yeah and

1589
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:43,290
there's okay so now let's start to get

1590
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:45,330
into the meat and potatoes here and

1591
01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:47,490
again if you haven't seen the film I'm

1592
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:49,320
just gonna say this right now spoiler

1593
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:52,770
alert if you don't dig it just cover

1594
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:55,770
your ears in the very beginning of the

1595
01:15:02,419 --> 01:14:57,690
film and I thought it was an interesting

1596
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:02,429
concept was Jeremy chose to

1597
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:04,890
have this clip with his cell phone and

1598
01:15:09,140 --> 01:15:07,050
his cell phone rings and he starts to

1599
01:15:11,870 --> 01:15:09,150
have a conversation with George Knapp on

1600
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:11,880
his speakerphone and he's holding the

1601
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:14,310
phone up everybody doing this for the

1602
01:15:17,899 --> 01:15:17,310
camera like this and he's listening to

1603
01:15:22,610 --> 01:15:17,909
nap

1604
01:15:24,890 --> 01:15:22,620
all right on camera and and and what

1605
01:15:27,709 --> 01:15:24,900
what this does and I understand the

1606
01:15:32,810 --> 01:15:27,719
artistic side of it it starts the tone

1607
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:32,820
of the movie it's nap talking about Bob

1608
01:15:38,930 --> 01:15:35,280
Lazar and and Jeremy is sitting and

1609
01:15:42,290 --> 01:15:38,940
listening and okay interesting concept I

1610
01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:42,300
I see where they're going with this but

1611
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:45,900
that wasn't the case it wasn't just one

1612
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:49,170
scene it was continuous throughout the

1613
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:52,310
movie probably one third of the movie is

1614
01:15:59,060 --> 01:15:54,659
Jeremy holding up his phone and

1615
01:16:02,330 --> 01:15:59,070
listening to it what did you think about

1616
01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:02,340
that approach I think it's okay but I

1617
01:16:05,149 --> 01:16:03,480
just thought it could have been shorter

1618
01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:05,159
you know it could have been tightened up

1619
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:07,980
but I thought it was okay you know to do

1620
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,570
it I just think some of the scenes were

1621
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:11,760
a little too long that's my take that

1622
01:16:16,340 --> 01:16:14,370
you know that's about it I just said it

1623
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:16,350
could have been tighten up better you

1624
01:16:23,180 --> 01:16:20,130
know I mean yeah my yeah my take on that

1625
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:23,190
was this what should have been done

1626
01:16:30,050 --> 01:16:26,310
because once you set up that it snap on

1627
01:16:34,490 --> 01:16:30,060
the phone then take naps audio use that

1628
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:34,500
as as a voiceover right vo that's your

1629
01:16:40,899 --> 01:16:37,530
narrator and then continue on with the

1630
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:40,909
movie but you don't have to see Korbel

1631
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:43,679
staring at his phone we don't get to see

1632
01:16:48,890 --> 01:16:46,050
nap talking right we only hear naps

1633
01:16:52,220 --> 01:16:48,900
voice this disembodied voice of George

1634
01:16:56,810 --> 01:16:52,230
Knapp which is fine but replace the

1635
01:16:58,459 --> 01:16:56,820
visuals of Jeremy with Bob Lazar and it

1636
01:17:00,680 --> 01:16:58,469
could be anything it could be pictures

1637
01:17:03,620 --> 01:17:00,690
it could be video it could be graphics

1638
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:03,630
it could be area 51 it could be the

1639
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:05,370
sport model it could be anything

1640
01:17:11,209 --> 01:17:08,330
diagrams it could be John Lear whatever

1641
01:17:13,729 --> 01:17:11,219
but replace that so we're not looking

1642
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:13,739
necessarily at

1643
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:15,930
Jeremy staring at his phone for 30

1644
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:18,960
minutes right right I got it yeah yeah

1645
01:17:24,650 --> 01:17:20,850
yeah I think that could have been done

1646
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:24,660
better I you know I just uh there were

1647
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:25,860
some interesting things in the movie

1648
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:29,250
where he and well I thought was

1649
01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:30,810
interesting if we could talk about where

1650
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:33,270
he was in then remember when he was in

1651
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:36,210
Dennis character when that was you know

1652
01:17:40,970 --> 01:17:38,489
interviewing the little Lazar back in a

1653
01:17:42,770 --> 01:17:40,980
day when he was in blackface and and not

1654
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:42,780
blackface was blacked out on the screen

1655
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:45,210
and he was he was known as Dennis you

1656
01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:46,650
know when he did say that thing where he

1657
01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,780
said you know he mentioned about him

1658
01:17:53,540 --> 01:17:50,940
where I might get you know thrown in

1659
01:17:55,700 --> 01:17:53,550
jail for espionage that kind of clicked

1660
01:17:57,310 --> 01:17:55,710
to me with the article that I read would

1661
01:17:59,300 --> 01:17:57,320
you read to that I said you of the

1662
01:18:01,490 --> 01:17:59,310
villains are story from the perspective

1663
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,500
of 2018 which is the new article by

1664
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:03,600
Thomas would which a lot of people don't

1665
01:18:08,209 --> 01:18:06,630
know he is but he's a he's a he's a guy

1666
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:08,219
he goes back to the Glen Campbell and

1667
01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:10,560
was one of the early area 51 researchers

1668
01:18:15,260 --> 01:18:12,390
kind of like I come like the third

1669
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:15,270
generation guy after me but uh but he

1670
01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:17,730
was oh he was a physicist now for more

1671
01:18:20,690 --> 01:18:18,870
business but he was a guy that was

1672
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:20,700
involved with a lot of the stuff was

1673
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,530
going camel and Erica to one researcher

1674
01:18:26,830 --> 01:18:24,719
research back in the day that wrote an

1675
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,840
article about what his take was on

1676
01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:28,800
al-azhar his background and all this

1677
01:18:31,820 --> 01:18:30,060
kind of stuff so I thought that was

1678
01:18:35,690 --> 01:18:31,830
interesting but I kind of reading it on

1679
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:35,700
the hood article and I kind of kind of

1680
01:18:38,420 --> 01:18:37,170
kind of side with a little bit of what

1681
01:18:40,010 --> 01:18:38,430
Thomas hood was saying about in that

1682
01:18:45,370 --> 01:18:40,020
article so I don't know if you want to

1683
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:48,290
well you know in the early the part of

1684
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:49,770
it like in the early days when you know

1685
01:18:53,630 --> 01:18:51,450
he took John Lear out to go see the UFO

1686
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:53,640
right on the Wednesday when they went to

1687
01:18:57,410 --> 01:18:55,770
see videotape in your book I remember

1688
01:18:58,729 --> 01:18:57,420
reading back in the day that that when

1689
01:19:01,040 --> 01:18:58,739
there's our first minute John here they

1690
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:01,050
were friends but he kind of gooped Italy

1691
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:02,880
about you know old earlier was into this

1692
01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:05,340
UFO stuff and was always kind of like

1693
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:07,020
you should group fatimata

1694
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:09,450
oh yeah this is kind of you know ahaha

1695
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:11,010
you know euro stuff you believe in that

1696
01:19:14,420 --> 01:19:12,690
book you know it's crap right now at

1697
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:14,430
that time he didn't really tell John

1698
01:19:20,690 --> 01:19:16,140
that he was working at Los Alamos right

1699
01:19:24,380 --> 01:19:20,700
so he knew about these these tests going

1700
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:24,390
on but mahute says that it wasn't a UFO

1701
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,209
he was just it was he's saying that Bob

1702
01:19:31,729 --> 01:19:29,760
our knew that they were being a particle

1703
01:19:34,429 --> 01:19:31,739
accelerator tested every 51 with

1704
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:34,439
particle beam-weapons okay and that they

1705
01:19:38,839 --> 01:19:36,329
were generating plasma whatever and

1706
01:19:41,959 --> 01:19:38,849
those those weapons but also for radar

1707
01:19:44,179 --> 01:19:41,969
spoofing for planes and whatnot you know

1708
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:44,189
where the the real site for Tonopah were

1709
01:19:48,739 --> 01:19:46,650
they have radon a jam test that you know

1710
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:48,749
they have Russian radar their you know

1711
01:19:54,140 --> 01:19:51,329
other systems throughout the China and

1712
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,150
when they test you test secrets planes

1713
01:19:57,169 --> 01:19:55,920
they they hit him with all the stealth

1714
01:19:59,899 --> 01:19:57,179
and stuff and see if they can evade

1715
01:20:02,479 --> 01:19:59,909
radar from Russia from China and Iraq

1716
01:20:04,660 --> 01:20:02,489
and whatever right so at that time he's

1717
01:20:07,609 --> 01:20:04,670
saying that was our knew that these were

1718
01:20:08,899 --> 01:20:07,619
particle beam-weapons so he kind of

1719
01:20:10,939 --> 01:20:08,909
brought him out there hey I'll show you

1720
01:20:14,620 --> 01:20:10,949
some UFOs and he should you know it's

1721
01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:14,630
this particle beam weapon test and then

1722
01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:17,550
you know Lazar had a screw off when the

1723
01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:18,900
sheriff came because didn't want to get

1724
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:20,729
busted right because he knew he worked

1725
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:23,249
in the site well the guards dawnia's or

1726
01:20:28,459 --> 01:20:27,030
the sheriff got his ID so they knew you

1727
01:20:30,469 --> 01:20:28,469
know that's how it got back to Lezama

1728
01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:30,479
then hey this guy works here so what my

1729
01:20:36,109 --> 01:20:32,820
good is saying is that Lazar they had to

1730
01:20:38,660 --> 01:20:36,119
tell the Czar you know you either you

1731
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:38,670
either say that this is we want to cover

1732
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:40,409
up this this particle beam we don't want

1733
01:20:44,540 --> 01:20:42,090
this out to the public that you just

1734
01:20:45,949 --> 01:20:44,550
tell people that this is a UFO you know

1735
01:20:48,859 --> 01:20:45,959
that this was they were seeing a year

1736
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:48,869
for this is UFO vet and and it's kind of

1737
01:20:53,330 --> 01:20:50,610
like what the if anybody knows about the

1738
01:20:54,979 --> 01:20:53,340
Paul bennewitz case you know where he

1739
01:20:57,290 --> 01:20:54,989
was seeing these secret things happening

1740
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:57,300
you know at the airbase and they started

1741
01:21:01,129 --> 01:20:59,340
you know telling him that he was seeing

1742
01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:01,139
UFOs it's kind of like the almost the

1743
01:21:04,370 --> 01:21:02,159
reverse of that you know what I'm

1744
01:21:09,529 --> 01:21:04,380
talking about right I do i do i do well

1745
01:21:15,979 --> 01:21:09,539
see and that's and specifically in in

1746
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:15,989
the movie Jeremy decided to whether its

1747
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:20,219
artistic license or not decided to not

1748
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:26,729
have anything combative or anything that

1749
01:21:33,290 --> 01:21:30,090
was on one side of the argument

1750
01:21:36,649 --> 01:21:33,300
all of that was avoided in the movie

1751
01:21:39,649 --> 01:21:36,659
where I thought that it was going to be

1752
01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:39,659
the exact opposite of that and so you're

1753
01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:40,870
bringing up you know

1754
01:21:46,050 --> 01:21:43,720
like the particle beams and that Lazar

1755
01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:46,060
possibly knew that it was particle beams

1756
01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:48,550
and not UFOs but he thought he was gonna

1757
01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:50,470
impress his friends and shown particle

1758
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:52,240
beams and tell him it's UFOs inand it

1759
01:21:57,300 --> 01:21:54,010
apparently worked if that was the case

1760
01:21:59,490 --> 01:21:57,310
well he said look you're gonna go to

1761
01:22:01,050 --> 01:21:59,500
prison oh you you you know you say this

1762
01:22:03,450 --> 01:22:01,060
cover story or you're gonna go to prison

1763
01:22:05,850 --> 01:22:03,460
but my point he did mention that's when

1764
01:22:10,460 --> 01:22:05,860
he's Dennis yeah yeah but my point with

1765
01:22:14,490 --> 01:22:10,470
that is the movie is void of anything

1766
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:14,500
confrontational right so just like this

1767
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:17,170
example that you're talking about and so

1768
01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:19,150
what do you think about that kind of

1769
01:22:26,660 --> 01:22:23,680
approach are are people out there gonna

1770
01:22:28,830 --> 01:22:26,670
be happy with that you know are they

1771
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:28,840
expecting something in a little more

1772
01:22:34,110 --> 01:22:32,410
offense all about 51 and all this and

1773
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:34,120
this past history and all that stuff and

1774
01:22:37,470 --> 01:22:36,310
I look at both sides cuz I'm not you

1775
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:37,480
know when I was younger I kind of

1776
01:22:41,070 --> 01:22:39,370
believe leaves a lot of the stuff but as

1777
01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:41,080
I got older and the research more I kind

1778
01:22:44,490 --> 01:22:43,180
of became I always read both sides of

1779
01:22:46,590 --> 01:22:44,500
the story and kind of take what I can

1780
01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:46,600
into it you know so it's not like I'm

1781
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:49,870
gonna you know be bunker or a guy like

1782
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:52,660
that I'm not I think both sides I think

1783
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:54,250
some things are conspiracies but I don't

1784
01:22:58,110 --> 01:22:56,560
think everything is a conspiracy okay a

1785
01:23:00,930 --> 01:22:58,120
lot of people knew your own field

1786
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:00,940
believed everything is a conspiracy you

1787
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:02,890
know no matter what and I just don't do

1788
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:06,910
that I might say okay I believe JFK was

1789
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:09,910
shot by one guy okay I believe that

1790
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:11,530
right but other people say oh no I can't

1791
01:23:14,970 --> 01:23:13,510
believe that you know people go crazy so

1792
01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:14,980
there's some things that I believe there

1793
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:16,510
confuses other things they don't you

1794
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:18,910
know yeah I believe we went to the moon

1795
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:20,050
there's other people that don't believe

1796
01:23:24,770 --> 01:23:21,970
you under the moon you know now we

1797
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:24,780
didn't go to the moon come on you know

1798
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:27,130
wolf do you really want to have that

1799
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:29,170
conversation tonight all right are you

1800
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:31,930
are you are you a flatterer now how you

1801
01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:33,670
think the earth is safe I could do that

1802
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:35,260
is that what do you think no that's you

1803
01:23:43,140 --> 01:23:35,770
wolf

1804
01:23:47,970 --> 01:23:43,150
okay okay okay okay let's serious hats

1805
01:23:52,170 --> 01:23:47,980
on for a second but the bat back to the

1806
01:23:55,490 --> 01:23:52,180
movie when you take that approach where

1807
01:23:59,310 --> 01:23:55,500
you are going to avoid the

1808
01:24:03,420 --> 01:23:59,320
the concerns about Bob Lazar and you're

1809
01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:03,430
gonna do that on purpose is that is that

1810
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:07,150
being objective or is the movie should

1811
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:09,820
it just be looked at as a tribute and

1812
01:24:16,170 --> 01:24:12,880
this wasn't supposed to be some

1813
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:16,180
groundbreaking evidence documents type

1814
01:24:23,460 --> 01:24:19,690
of documentary proving Bob Lazar

1815
01:24:24,990 --> 01:24:23,470
history and story you know yeah yeah

1816
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:25,000
there were some scenes where he kind of

1817
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:26,350
pushed him near the end you saw that

1818
01:24:30,270 --> 01:24:27,580
where he kind of is trying to ask him

1819
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:30,280
you know about the yelling that 115 did

1820
01:24:35,190 --> 01:24:32,170
he take it out of us almost as right as

1821
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:35,200
he did now right I don't buy that story

1822
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:36,490
a little bit because they have those

1823
01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:40,090
those radiation detectors there item you

1824
01:24:43,740 --> 01:24:42,190
know maybe he was able to sneak some out

1825
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:43,750
but I mean they're you know they have

1826
01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:46,180
these you know radiation detectors and

1827
01:24:49,970 --> 01:24:47,380
stuff I'm not really sure if he really

1828
01:24:52,620 --> 01:24:49,980
got it out or not but why is the FBI

1829
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:52,630
rated him not once but twice you got to

1830
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:54,400
think about that - right right right

1831
01:24:57,690 --> 01:24:56,320
they're definitely looking for element

1832
01:25:00,630 --> 01:24:57,700
115 what are they looking for

1833
01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:00,640
no quite me what do you think yeah

1834
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:03,100
that's the part where Bob Lazar becomes

1835
01:25:08,910 --> 01:25:06,730
an enigma you know it's a very very hard

1836
01:25:10,140 --> 01:25:08,920
thing to figure out okay so now we're

1837
01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:10,150
gonna head towards a break we're gonna

1838
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:12,760
pick up or when we come back I'm going

1839
01:25:20,580 --> 01:25:15,490
to ask you this question do you believe

1840
01:25:26,250 --> 01:25:20,590
that Bob Lazar set foot flew into area

1841
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:26,260
51 not once or twice our was inside of

1842
01:25:35,850 --> 01:25:29,440
area 51 as an employee for one day one

1843
01:25:38,910 --> 01:25:35,860
minute reacts is he I think he I think

1844
01:25:40,380 --> 01:25:38,920
he did get into 51 but I think I'm even

1845
01:25:41,730 --> 01:25:40,390
nap things because he did say something

1846
01:25:43,530 --> 01:25:41,740
about the base that some people don't

1847
01:25:47,940 --> 01:25:43,540
know about that's right that's right he

1848
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:47,950
finds the kind of that he was there now

1849
01:25:52,500 --> 01:25:49,990
they'd be like it said the ikkaku thing

1850
01:25:54,210 --> 01:25:52,510
I still on the fence with like I said we

1851
01:25:56,580 --> 01:25:54,220
you know we talked about Jerry Freeman

1852
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the hiker and the lights and all that

1853
01:26:00,540 --> 01:25:58,270
stuff I'm still on the fence about that

1854
01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:00,550
I'm still on the fence about this he

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:02,740
talked about going to a gate when he was

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on the bus and he was going to castles

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01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:06,940
like it was a gate and I'm all the rain

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starts and all the satellite and

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absolutely

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no gate so I promise with the roads that

1861
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are go on the satellite maps go to four

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:15,610
please so there's still a lot of things

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01:26:22,380 --> 01:26:18,970
amount of sensitive ones are too so you

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know like this it just yeah yeah oh you

1865
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:26,290
can hear me doing that okay I need to

1866
01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:27,910
stop this for a second I was actually

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texting somebody I was telling him I'm

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01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:32,770
on the air right now so you you heard

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01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:35,560
that right that's pretty funny okay

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let's take a break right here and see

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01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:41,170
this is the thing and you touched upon

1872
01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:47,410
it which is he saw things at area 51

1873
01:26:56,490 --> 01:26:52,420
that can only be seen at area 51 that we

1874
01:26:58,830 --> 01:26:56,500
found out years later to be pretty spot

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on the money and then you combine that

1876
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:02,530
so you know that bob was there you know

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in what capacity we don't know but bob

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was there what did he see

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01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:10,810
and then you combine that with Papoose

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01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:13,330
Lake and the side of that mountain and

1881
01:27:18,660 --> 01:27:15,670
for the life of me I can't see anything

1882
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:18,670
there and speaking of that when we come

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01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:21,070
back we'll talk about the hand scanner

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01:27:25,890 --> 01:27:23,470
which was if you're gonna watch this

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movie and look for something new and

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breaking it's the hand scanner and that

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01:27:34,620 --> 01:27:31,750
scene with Bob will talk when about when

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01:27:37,290 --> 01:27:34,630
we come back but that scene with Bob was

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awesome this is fade to black tonight

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reviewing Jeremy corbels new film Bob

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Lazar area 51 a flying saucers with the

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one and only wolf McCarran we'll be

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right back after this short break stay

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Church this is a revolution the

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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01:32:33,530 --> 01:32:32,160
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:33,540
Neel shimmy Church tonight we're doing a

1978
01:32:39,410 --> 01:32:36,690
review of Jeremy corbels new film Bob

1979
01:32:41,330 --> 01:32:39,420
Lazar area51 applying sausage with wolf

1980
01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:41,340
macaron who attended the premiere with

1981
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:44,940
me sat with me last night at the Ace

1982
01:32:50,690 --> 01:32:47,250
Hotel and the ACE Theater in downtown

1983
01:32:52,130 --> 01:32:50,700
Los Angeles now I'm going to set this up

1984
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:52,140
for you wolf because it was a very

1985
01:32:59,860 --> 01:32:55,080
interesting moment in the film there has

1986
01:33:03,530 --> 01:32:59,870
been over the years much controversy

1987
01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:03,540
about Bob talking about the hand scanner

1988
01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:08,040
at the gate outside of sight s4 off a

1989
01:33:13,190 --> 01:33:10,500
Papoose Lake that he had to go through

1990
01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:13,200
before getting to the hangars that this

1991
01:33:19,070 --> 01:33:15,360
infamous gate was there with this hand

1992
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:19,080
scanner now what now this is what's

1993
01:33:24,020 --> 01:33:21,120
interesting people have been looking for

1994
01:33:26,930 --> 01:33:24,030
those gates in and satellite imaging for

1995
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,940
years myself included I'm not saying

1996
01:33:33,230 --> 01:33:28,800
that we would have seen this infamous

1997
01:33:35,300 --> 01:33:33,240
hand scanner but this has been one one

1998
01:33:41,180 --> 01:33:35,310
of the quests for many UFO researchers

1999
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:41,190
is is this entrance to the hangars at on

2000
01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:42,930
the side of the mountain at pupusas Lake

2001
01:33:49,250 --> 01:33:46,500
now that being said the hand scanner was

2002
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:49,260
revealed last night in the movie this

2003
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:51,930
was 45 minutes in this is the moment

2004
01:33:55,490 --> 01:33:53,850
that I was talking about where we waited

2005
01:33:58,810 --> 01:33:55,500
45 minutes for something to happen in

2006
01:34:02,000 --> 01:33:58,820
the movie and we got it and it was a big

2007
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:02,010
emotional moment now what did you think

2008
01:34:06,590 --> 01:34:04,110
about that when Bob looked at the

2009
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:06,600
photographs of the hand scanner and his

2010
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:09,450
reaction take me back I want your

2011
01:34:13,670 --> 01:34:10,800
thoughts on that it was it was pretty

2012
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:13,680
dramatic no I thought it was pretty cool

2013
01:34:17,930 --> 01:34:16,530
because yeah he I mean he looked at it

2014
01:34:20,690 --> 01:34:17,940
he could tell he was emotional about it

2015
01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:20,700
in the the first time he saw and he kind

2016
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:22,500
of captured that on the you know camera

2017
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:25,290
but he kind of gave he did so Bob Bob

2018
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:27,120
kind of got busted up about any kind of

2019
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:28,560
felt some confirmation there a little

2020
01:34:32,660 --> 01:34:30,930
bit I felt a little bit happy about it

2021
01:34:36,779 --> 01:34:32,670
yeah that's exactly the words that I

2022
01:34:39,020 --> 01:34:36,789
used that he he seemed

2023
01:34:42,659 --> 01:34:39,030
he seemed to have a moment of peace

2024
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:42,669
right really you can see they leave and

2025
01:34:47,489 --> 01:34:44,530
he was happy

2026
01:34:50,189 --> 01:34:47,499
Bob throughout the movie is not a happy

2027
01:34:53,129 --> 01:34:50,199
guy he's pretty he's pretty upset about

2028
01:34:55,289 --> 01:34:53,139
how his life turned out understandably

2029
01:34:58,079 --> 01:34:55,299
so I mean he's been scrutinized for the

2030
01:35:00,809 --> 01:34:58,089
better part of thirty years but that was

2031
01:35:03,149 --> 01:35:00,819
one moment in the movie where you felt

2032
01:35:05,759 --> 01:35:03,159
really connected to Bob and it was like

2033
01:35:07,770 --> 01:35:05,769
finally after 30 years of just people

2034
01:35:11,219 --> 01:35:07,780
dragging me through the mud he finally

2035
01:35:14,189 --> 01:35:11,229
you know now is that proof enough to

2036
01:35:20,939 --> 01:35:14,199
lift Bob up and and just take everything

2037
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:20,949
else at face value no good movie is

2038
01:35:24,029 --> 01:35:22,239
probably the one of the best moments

2039
01:35:26,789 --> 01:35:24,039
there yeah yeah it was a

2040
01:35:29,489 --> 01:35:26,799
I remember hearing about the hand

2041
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:29,499
scanner well we all you know did but and

2042
01:35:33,989 --> 01:35:31,449
trying to visualize this and when you go

2043
01:35:37,020 --> 01:35:33,999
back that far into technology right to

2044
01:35:41,359 --> 01:35:37,030
1990 91 92 when you were hearing about

2045
01:35:46,679 --> 01:35:41,369
this that was stuff that was in movies

2046
01:35:48,359 --> 01:35:46,689
cheap movies to like it was just

2047
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:48,369
something that wasn't talked about that

2048
01:35:53,399 --> 01:35:51,489
was really advanced technology but he

2049
01:35:56,579 --> 01:35:53,409
talked about it and he's stuck by it and

2050
01:35:59,339 --> 01:35:56,589
then somehow Jeremy was able to find

2051
01:36:02,000 --> 01:35:59,349
pictures of the actual hand scanners

2052
01:36:04,709 --> 01:36:02,010
that were used at area 51

2053
01:36:06,599 --> 01:36:04,719
yeah it was he was a lot of people don't

2054
01:36:10,049 --> 01:36:06,609
know this about me but one night when I

2055
01:36:12,419 --> 01:36:10,059
was when I was in my dad worked at north

2056
01:36:14,429 --> 01:36:12,429
of aircrafts okay and my dad was an

2057
01:36:17,129 --> 01:36:14,439
accountant there and I had a summer job

2058
01:36:18,750 --> 01:36:17,139
there when I was like 18 and I had to go

2059
01:36:21,149 --> 01:36:18,760
through a scanner thing like that too

2060
01:36:23,759 --> 01:36:21,159
but it didn't it wasn't that exact same

2061
01:36:26,699 --> 01:36:23,769
scanner glad I came over here when I was

2062
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:26,709
18 but I think then I had the thing

2063
01:36:30,389 --> 01:36:28,449
would look at my face like I'm Cameron I

2064
01:36:32,039 --> 01:36:30,399
had to put my badge down I don't

2065
01:36:33,989 --> 01:36:32,049
remember putting my hand down but I just

2066
01:36:36,179 --> 01:36:33,999
worked I didn't work anything secret but

2067
01:36:38,579 --> 01:36:36,189
I but it was just you know access to the

2068
01:36:40,109 --> 01:36:38,589
you know to get in and but I did I

2069
01:36:41,309 --> 01:36:40,119
remember I did have to put my bags down

2070
01:36:42,809 --> 01:36:41,319
or something like that

2071
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:42,819
but it looked nothing like that and that

2072
01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:44,260
was probably when I was in high school

2073
01:36:50,190 --> 01:36:47,199
so that was probably like god I was

2074
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:50,200
probably like 82 or 83 you

2075
01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:54,610
I mean there was again you know this is

2076
01:36:59,970 --> 01:36:58,270
spoiler alert stuff but I do want when

2077
01:37:03,360 --> 01:36:59,980
if you haven't seen the movie when you

2078
01:37:05,970 --> 01:37:03,370
get to these certain key points like

2079
01:37:08,970 --> 01:37:05,980
this hand scanner section you really

2080
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:08,980
need to just take the moment and absorb

2081
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:11,410
it and and and just let it all you know

2082
01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:12,880
take it all in because it's a pretty

2083
01:37:19,380 --> 01:37:15,220
pretty significant point in the film and

2084
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:19,390
then there is another another spoiler

2085
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:21,310
alert I have to do this there's another

2086
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:26,010
point in the film where over the years

2087
01:37:34,830 --> 01:37:29,970
but not only from Bob but from John Lear

2088
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:34,840
where Bob said and told John Lear that

2089
01:37:40,260 --> 01:37:38,080
he had seen his first alien and that his

2090
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:40,270
comment about that and you can see this

2091
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:43,290
in Carrie Cassidy's fantastic interview

2092
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:46,000
that for part I think it's like four

2093
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:49,690
parts of her original John Lear

2094
01:37:54,750 --> 01:37:51,850
interview at John Leader's home where

2095
01:37:58,050 --> 01:37:54,760
John Lear says what and he said Bob said

2096
01:38:02,690 --> 01:37:58,060
yeah you never forget your first alien

2097
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:02,700
right okay well it went from that

2098
01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:06,810
testimony to last night in the film

2099
01:38:11,730 --> 01:38:11,020
where I don't think Bob was trying to be

2100
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:11,740
misleading

2101
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:14,110
I think Bob was trying to set the record

2102
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:16,810
straight or whatever but last night he

2103
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:19,810
was very specific that he thought it was

2104
01:38:26,940 --> 01:38:23,730
a doll now that's a pretty serious

2105
01:38:28,740 --> 01:38:26,950
backpedal after what we have been led to

2106
01:38:31,230 --> 01:38:28,750
believe over the years what do you think

2107
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:31,240
about that he was he was asked that same

2108
01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:32,770
exact question it's a little Airy

2109
01:38:37,290 --> 01:38:35,620
conference in 93 and back then he did

2110
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,300
mentions I was really quick a little

2111
01:38:41,130 --> 01:38:38,800
notes like a half a second but he did

2112
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:41,140
see he thought he saw something of them

2113
01:38:45,210 --> 01:38:42,880
you know what he glanced is something

2114
01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:45,220
that he thought was looks like an alien

2115
01:38:48,990 --> 01:38:47,740
you know but he said it was so quick but

2116
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:49,000
I don't remember him saying they were

2117
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:51,730
putting it in the seat but but he did

2118
01:38:55,710 --> 01:38:54,010
back that on that so for him to say the

2119
01:38:56,910 --> 01:38:55,720
stories always stay the same he did

2120
01:39:00,960 --> 01:38:56,920
change that part of it

2121
01:39:02,350 --> 01:39:00,970
I'd and why do you think why do you

2122
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:02,360
think he would

2123
01:39:06,129 --> 01:39:04,610
Jambi because it's so documented you

2124
01:39:08,890 --> 01:39:06,139
know what I mean there it's not like

2125
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:08,900
this is the you know third party

2126
01:39:13,959 --> 01:39:11,449
third-hand information here this is a

2127
01:39:17,500 --> 01:39:13,969
well documented a statement from Bob and

2128
01:39:20,020 --> 01:39:17,510
one of the more crazy parts of his story

2129
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:20,030
dude's odd alien right through an

2130
01:39:24,820 --> 01:39:23,119
officer ano yeah he said he Derrida 93

2131
01:39:26,890 --> 01:39:24,830
but now he's kind of backpedaling but

2132
01:39:28,510 --> 01:39:26,900
he's I mean even he did it like the

2133
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:28,520
instead it was like a glance so I don't

2134
01:39:32,109 --> 01:39:30,050
know maybe you know how you see

2135
01:39:34,660 --> 01:39:32,119
something like that like you so fast and

2136
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:34,670
you not sure what it is and maybe his

2137
01:39:42,010 --> 01:39:39,170
mind is confused by confabulation you

2138
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:42,020
know I'm talking about so where and how

2139
01:39:47,530 --> 01:39:44,719
do we and maybe maybe he had to change

2140
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:47,540
it in his mind to see if he is really

2141
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:48,770
seeing that because you know how some

2142
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:51,170
people take things into mine and change

2143
01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:52,730
like if you're a rape really young or

2144
01:39:55,899 --> 01:39:54,080
whatever you know what I mean there's is

2145
01:39:57,700 --> 01:39:55,909
there's your mind kind of changes that

2146
01:39:59,680 --> 01:39:57,710
may seem it's like okay or maybe to make

2147
01:40:03,070 --> 01:39:59,690
maybe wanted to change it to make seem

2148
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:03,080
like it's not it's not et it's hard to

2149
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:06,650
say you know what do you think about the

2150
01:40:11,050 --> 01:40:09,770
view that many are going to take and

2151
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:11,060
it's kind of funny because I'm seeing

2152
01:40:17,649 --> 01:40:14,000
these comments now popping up in Twitter

2153
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:17,659
but I heard this last night after the

2154
01:40:22,419 --> 01:40:19,850
film as we were sitting around and

2155
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:22,429
discussing the film with with everybody

2156
01:40:26,260 --> 01:40:24,530
that I just watched it and one of the

2157
01:40:30,700 --> 01:40:26,270
comments that kept coming up over and

2158
01:40:32,979 --> 01:40:30,710
over again is that Bob's mind has been

2159
01:40:34,899 --> 01:40:32,989
messed with that there are certain

2160
01:40:36,820 --> 01:40:34,909
things that have been wiped he's missing

2161
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:36,830
time there's things now that he's

2162
01:40:43,810 --> 01:40:40,210
imagining and and some things may be

2163
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:43,820
distorted exaggerated or taken away like

2164
01:40:49,810 --> 01:40:46,730
there's no real aspect of what's going

2165
01:40:51,209 --> 01:40:49,820
on right now with him and and we have to

2166
01:40:54,490 --> 01:40:51,219
honestly take that into consideration

2167
01:40:56,620 --> 01:40:54,500
now that sounds like an extreme but I'm

2168
01:41:00,250 --> 01:40:56,630
not the only one saying something like

2169
01:41:01,689 --> 01:41:00,260
this am i no well he did talk about you

2170
01:41:03,399 --> 01:41:01,699
remember him talking about taking a pill

2171
01:41:05,649 --> 01:41:03,409
or drinking some unknown liquid like a

2172
01:41:08,410 --> 01:41:05,659
pine-sol smelling thing right when he

2173
01:41:10,450 --> 01:41:08,420
was when he was brought back in when

2174
01:41:13,089 --> 01:41:10,460
they found out that he you know that he

2175
01:41:15,399 --> 01:41:13,099
kind of breached his you know security

2176
01:41:15,790 --> 01:41:15,409
thing with taking the goes guys out to

2177
01:41:17,919 --> 01:41:15,800
you

2178
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:17,929
see the UFO when all that so I think

2179
01:41:23,020 --> 01:41:20,090
that's when Dennis Mariani is a

2180
01:41:25,780 --> 01:41:23,030
supervisor you know they were scolding

2181
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:25,790
him or whatnot you know and so he does

2182
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:27,199
remember drinking something I don't know

2183
01:41:30,700 --> 01:41:28,489
if that drink had something to do with

2184
01:41:31,629 --> 01:41:30,710
his is a mind you know like I said

2185
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,639
there's so many things that could have

2186
01:41:37,149 --> 01:41:33,199
happened to him looking under some type

2187
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:37,159
of MK control ultra control I mean you

2188
01:41:43,419 --> 01:41:39,190
know who right what do we know right

2189
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:43,429
well okay so now and and not to not to

2190
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:46,250
drive this into the ground but when he

2191
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,650
said when he did the backpedal last

2192
01:41:53,020 --> 01:41:50,480
night with alien through the window

2193
01:41:54,399 --> 01:41:53,030
which he had drawn pictures of this you

2194
01:41:56,589 --> 01:41:54,409
know we have seen the evidence he's

2195
01:42:00,520 --> 01:41:56,599
talked about this over the years it was

2196
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:00,530
one of the parts that of his experiences

2197
01:42:05,799 --> 01:42:03,199
out there that we all identified with it

2198
01:42:07,780 --> 01:42:05,809
was a you know it's fantastical stop for

2199
01:42:09,819 --> 01:42:07,790
him to do the backpedal this is the

2200
01:42:11,890 --> 01:42:09,829
thing if you're gonna dock pedal like

2201
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:11,900
that in this documentary and you're

2202
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:14,239
jeremy Korbel don't you address that

2203
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:19,210
head-on in that you say okay listen why

2204
01:42:25,569 --> 01:42:22,610
change your story you were steadfast

2205
01:42:28,660 --> 01:42:25,579
back then that it was an alien now

2206
01:42:30,370 --> 01:42:28,670
you're saying that it was a doll are you

2207
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,380
saying back then that you were just

2208
01:42:34,270 --> 01:42:32,239
exaggerating for your friends and it got

2209
01:42:37,060 --> 01:42:34,280
out of control and it got away from you

2210
01:42:39,459 --> 01:42:37,070
right is you know that's the portion

2211
01:42:42,850 --> 01:42:39,469
that needs to be asked to Bob why is he

2212
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:42,860
changing his story right well when I was

2213
01:42:45,459 --> 01:42:44,210
saying he didn't seem to store the right

2214
01:42:48,819 --> 01:42:45,469
there he changed his story

2215
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:48,829
so what is it is he mad is he kind of

2216
01:42:52,919 --> 01:42:50,719
started saying reason not well you saw

2217
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:52,929
last night that he changed the story so

2218
01:43:01,959 --> 01:42:59,119
yeah yeah okay and now back to honest

2219
01:43:06,180 --> 01:43:01,969
and specifics here one of the things

2220
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:06,190
about Bob that I am convinced that

2221
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:10,730
convinced that he was at area 51 okay

2222
01:43:16,060 --> 01:43:13,520
in what capacity or for how long or how

2223
01:43:18,609 --> 01:43:16,070
many days I don't know only Bob knows

2224
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:18,619
that I don't know that answer but there

2225
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:22,130
was one thing that convinces me that he

2226
01:43:29,530 --> 01:43:26,090
was there and that was the Aurora the

2227
01:43:32,410 --> 01:43:29,540
Aurora spy plane how he described it how

2228
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:32,420
he drew it how he detailed it what it

2229
01:43:37,540 --> 01:43:34,370
sounded like and where it was and how it

2230
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:37,550
took off the facts about the Aurora and

2231
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:41,330
and the details of the the ducting of

2232
01:43:44,530 --> 01:43:42,800
the engines and how they were laid out

2233
01:43:48,730 --> 01:43:44,540
on the back didn't come out for years

2234
01:43:52,210 --> 01:43:48,740
but yet he was able to pretty I mean

2235
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:52,220
unless that wasn't from imagination you

2236
01:44:00,280 --> 01:43:55,010
can't make that up and that he nailed

2237
01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:00,290
that is is that enough for you to to

2238
01:44:07,450 --> 01:44:03,380
admit or to yourself that he was at area

2239
01:44:09,490 --> 01:44:07,460
51 well I'm not really because we were

2240
01:44:12,730 --> 01:44:09,500
the war was really kind of enigma kind

2241
01:44:14,590 --> 01:44:12,740
of playing to it kind of like you know

2242
01:44:16,060 --> 01:44:14,600
some people says it was never created

2243
01:44:19,330 --> 01:44:16,070
some people say he was a McDonnell

2244
01:44:21,220 --> 01:44:19,340
Douglas bird it was it was it was it was

2245
01:44:22,540 --> 01:44:21,230
May it was operational but then it was

2246
01:44:24,250 --> 01:44:22,550
just wasn't picked up you know how they

2247
01:44:29,020 --> 01:44:24,260
go with Boeing or another manufacturer

2248
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:29,030
McDonnell Douglas or whoever so the the

2249
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:30,770
only thing I can say about that is is I

2250
01:44:37,870 --> 01:44:35,690
did here in ended I did see an object in

2251
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:37,880
93 you know I was added on I had

2252
01:44:41,020 --> 01:44:39,290
binoculars on but it was during the

2253
01:44:42,190 --> 01:44:41,030
daytime where they're testing I had the

2254
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:42,200
whole actually have a whole mission

2255
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:44,930
still recorded when I was with my

2256
01:44:48,970 --> 01:44:46,970
partner when we're looking down sight so

2257
01:44:52,030 --> 01:44:48,980
so this plane this black stealth plane

2258
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:52,040
is making a bank in these on top of

2259
01:44:55,180 --> 01:44:53,570
these clouds and I'm looking at him like

2260
01:44:57,370 --> 01:44:55,190
I'm looking down on top of the plane

2261
01:44:59,110 --> 01:44:57,380
okay okay he's making a bank in the

2262
01:45:01,300 --> 01:44:59,120
clouds I got my but not by no bottom and

2263
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:01,310
ran this to chaser planes they always we

2264
01:45:04,930 --> 01:45:02,690
know he's tested secret aircraft well

2265
01:45:07,170 --> 01:45:04,940
they don't we've got two chasers you

2266
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:07,180
know if these are FA scenes and I and

2267
01:45:10,810 --> 01:45:09,410
I'm looking down on and this thing

2268
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:10,820
looked like a diamond almost like a

2269
01:45:15,310 --> 01:45:12,530
teardrop shaped like a diamond

2270
01:45:17,980 --> 01:45:15,320
okay and that's this is a 93 and I

2271
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:17,990
believe I was looking at possibly the SR

2272
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:20,330
72 which is out now

2273
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:22,850
okay so 93 I was also monitoring the

2274
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:25,280
reaper's out there all the drones coming

2275
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:26,960
from you know Indian Springs and all

2276
01:45:31,480 --> 01:45:29,990
that stuff so but ivory was kind of

2277
01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:31,490
looking at some people would call the

2278
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:32,960
Aurora but I believe was kind of looking

2279
01:45:37,420 --> 01:45:35,450
at the SR 72 and back then they were

2280
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:37,430
doing scramjet technology and now it

2281
01:45:44,620 --> 01:45:42,530
would the SNHU is the hypersonic

2282
01:45:46,270 --> 01:45:44,630
but uh and there was one time where I

2283
01:45:48,970 --> 01:45:46,280
was out there with my partner and I did

2284
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:48,980
here the sky tear and it sounds like the

2285
01:45:53,140 --> 01:45:50,960
sky is tearing like when we rip in the

2286
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:53,150
sky apart I didn't see that plane back

2287
01:45:59,290 --> 01:45:56,560
at that time but I did hear it and

2288
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,300
that's where they call that you know the

2289
01:46:05,230 --> 01:46:01,040
donuts on the Rope kind of effect where

2290
01:46:07,300 --> 01:46:05,240
they have those uh yeah yes folks yeah

2291
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:07,310
yeah and and I believe that's what I

2292
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:08,690
heard out there at that time that wasn't

2293
01:46:12,490 --> 01:46:11,210
during the same time I saw the ssme too

2294
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:12,500
or I believe it to be I saw something

2295
01:46:16,810 --> 01:46:14,930
too but that was also documented in the

2296
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:16,820
documentary I forget what show was on

2297
01:46:20,740 --> 01:46:19,370
but it was like an 89 there was a show

2298
01:46:22,290 --> 01:46:20,750
on where there was a guy named Chris

2299
01:46:25,450 --> 01:46:22,300
Gill and he was an engineer on like a

2300
01:46:28,330 --> 01:46:25,460
oil platform and he was working for like

2301
01:46:30,970 --> 01:46:28,340
Galveston key oil or something and when

2302
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:30,980
he described this thing in this TV show

2303
01:46:36,750 --> 01:46:33,650
I go that's the exact same thing

2304
01:46:40,660 --> 01:46:36,760
that I saw out there at area 51 in 1993

2305
01:46:44,380 --> 01:46:40,670
yeah I remember that testimony yeah I do

2306
01:46:50,890 --> 01:46:44,390
I do I remember that well and and and

2307
01:46:57,010 --> 01:46:50,900
getting back to the film the the the way

2308
01:46:59,320 --> 01:46:57,020
that jeremy got up at the front of the

2309
01:47:02,590 --> 01:46:59,330
premiere and spoke to the audience and

2310
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:02,600
again he's a really good he's a really

2311
01:47:10,210 --> 01:47:06,770
good speaker or a dirt you know he's a

2312
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:10,220
hipster kind of guy likes to use you

2313
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:11,810
know some pretty tough language and

2314
01:47:18,370 --> 01:47:15,050
stuff and and all of it and the tats but

2315
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:18,380
but he's a good carnival barker right he

2316
01:47:23,530 --> 01:47:20,330
was able to do what I would have done

2317
01:47:28,210 --> 01:47:23,540
which is get everybody up and yelling

2318
01:47:32,110 --> 01:47:28,220
and screaming and he did that it was

2319
01:47:34,900 --> 01:47:32,120
good and when part of that delivery was

2320
01:47:37,780 --> 01:47:34,910
that what you are about to see is gonna

2321
01:47:39,820 --> 01:47:37,790
be the end all this is it all questions

2322
01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:39,830
everything's on the table after tonight

2323
01:47:45,850 --> 01:47:43,190
you know Bob Lazar is the end and raw

2324
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:45,860
team and it was effective man we

2325
01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:48,650
couldn't wait for this film to start by

2326
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:51,710
the end of the film it was very apparent

2327
01:47:59,140 --> 01:47:56,090
that no questions were answered for the

2328
01:48:01,090 --> 01:47:59,150
entire film except for and it wasn't a

2329
01:48:03,310 --> 01:48:01,100
question that was answered the hand

2330
01:48:07,660 --> 01:48:03,320
scanner but everything else

2331
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:07,670
cleverly was left out now he did mention

2332
01:48:14,500 --> 01:48:10,610
he did mention about the mic pig pen and

2333
01:48:17,860 --> 01:48:14,510
about you know wait a minute wait a

2334
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:17,870
minute I had I take issue with that okay

2335
01:48:29,740 --> 01:48:20,960
he brought it up was Mike Thigpen in the

2336
01:48:31,780 --> 01:48:29,750
film no what did Mike what some audio on

2337
01:48:34,180 --> 01:48:31,790
on the there was some audio on the coast

2338
01:48:36,250 --> 01:48:34,190
to coast um think I'm talking that's

2339
01:48:41,710 --> 01:48:36,260
right that was on the interview but

2340
01:48:45,610 --> 01:48:41,720
never in the movie yes okay that this is

2341
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:45,620
critical here you know and so you get to

2342
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:47,090
the end of the movie and you sit back

2343
01:48:51,580 --> 01:48:48,910
and you say to yourself wait a minute

2344
01:48:55,090 --> 01:48:51,590
Korbel promised us one thing at the

2345
01:48:58,600 --> 01:48:55,100
beginning and here we are at the end and

2346
01:49:01,570 --> 01:48:58,610
although it's a well edited cool tribute

2347
01:49:03,490 --> 01:49:01,580
to Bob everything that you said was

2348
01:49:04,780 --> 01:49:03,500
gonna happen before this movie started

2349
01:49:15,730 --> 01:49:04,790
none of it happened

2350
01:49:18,910 --> 01:49:15,740
and I the premiere you know don't say it

2351
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:18,920
at all you know but but did you have the

2352
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:21,290
same feeling that I got at the end of

2353
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:23,090
the movie where we were told one thing

2354
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:25,610
in the beginning and then we watched the

2355
01:49:32,890 --> 01:49:27,770
movie and it was the opposite of what we

2356
01:49:35,110 --> 01:49:32,900
thought it was going to be I think so

2357
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:35,120
and well how does that make you feel

2358
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:45,050
well questions you know about our to me

2359
01:49:50,500 --> 01:49:48,110
know put a nail in the coffin for me or

2360
01:49:52,930 --> 01:49:50,510
anything either way you know and like I

2361
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:52,940
said it didn't say so it actually by a

2362
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:54,050
media might have left some more

2363
01:49:58,960 --> 01:49:56,090
questions you know yeah I kind of

2364
01:50:01,930 --> 01:49:58,970
thought the same way so for you there

2365
01:50:04,180 --> 01:50:01,940
are two there are two people out there

2366
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:04,190
that that two kinds of people that are

2367
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:06,310
gonna watch this film you're gonna

2368
01:50:13,710 --> 01:50:10,930
have people like me that our Bob Lazar

2369
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,720
fans of which I'm one right I am I I

2370
01:50:18,420 --> 01:50:15,520
don't care what people say I've always

2371
01:50:20,630 --> 01:50:18,430
said that night I'll stick to it

2372
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:20,640
I've got a questions about Bob Lazar

2373
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:24,130
right I've got questions but I think he

2374
01:50:29,190 --> 01:50:26,110
was at area 51 and I think he saw things

2375
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:29,200
so there's that part but then you had

2376
01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:33,370
the other type of viewer of this

2377
01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:36,640
documentary that absolutely thinks he's

2378
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:39,220
full of crap and that this movie isn't

2379
01:50:44,750 --> 01:50:42,130
gonna take anybody anywhere and the only

2380
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:44,760
thing that's gonna change their mind is

2381
01:50:52,500 --> 01:50:48,910
diplomas facts paperwork witnesses

2382
01:50:55,050 --> 01:50:52,510
friends professors classmates co-workers

2383
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:55,060
write the whole thing and unless you

2384
01:50:59,400 --> 01:50:57,130
don't unless that is brought to the

2385
01:51:02,640 --> 01:50:59,410
party the story's not going to change

2386
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:02,650
right is that am I wrong in in

2387
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:06,090
classifying those two types of viewers

2388
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:09,130
well let's say the element 115 stuff

2389
01:51:14,220 --> 01:51:12,070
finally get stable then that will demo

2390
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:14,230
that would be something right I mean you

2391
01:51:21,660 --> 01:51:18,370
know I mean we know that in 2003 they

2392
01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:21,670
discovered must opium real okay right

2393
01:51:26,010 --> 01:51:24,520
and and and you know and and that was

2394
01:51:27,330 --> 01:51:26,020
discovered like it was brought out in

2395
01:51:31,710 --> 01:51:27,340
like I think it warrants a little more

2396
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:31,720
labs in 2004 but they were able to do

2397
01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:33,970
that but it was ours right they can't

2398
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:36,490
find an isotope where they can you know

2399
01:51:40,020 --> 01:51:38,410
you're what they say that I don't know

2400
01:51:42,180 --> 01:51:40,030
what to me that he says they can do then

2401
01:51:47,490 --> 01:51:42,190
he'll be vindicated completely right no

2402
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:47,500
but no no no no and I'll tell you why

2403
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:50,080
this is the thing and again I'm a bob

2404
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,250
lazar side but element 115 the one that

2405
01:51:59,310 --> 01:51:56,400
is on the periodic charts right now

2406
01:52:01,890 --> 01:51:59,320
right yeah that's just an element that

2407
01:52:06,570 --> 01:52:01,900
has the number 115 on it that has

2408
01:52:08,990 --> 01:52:06,580
nothing to do with this this material

2409
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:09,000
that was used to power up this

2410
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:14,500
anti-gravity propulsion device well who

2411
01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:16,570
says that that's the same le it's just

2412
01:52:23,610 --> 01:52:18,580
the same number

2413
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:23,620
as elements are discovered and created

2414
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:26,320
you know they are given a number look I

2415
01:52:29,970 --> 01:52:28,240
could say right now what's the current

2416
01:52:32,490 --> 01:52:29,980
periodic chart number

2417
01:52:35,820 --> 01:52:32,500
what's the what's the current what's the

2418
01:52:39,420 --> 01:52:35,830
last number let's go right now periodic

2419
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:39,430
chart right table right okay so let's go

2420
01:52:47,930 --> 01:52:41,920
there right now I'm looking at it the

2421
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:47,940
current number is looks like r up to 118

2422
01:52:53,940 --> 01:52:50,850
okay here's one 15 right here

2423
01:52:59,070 --> 01:52:53,950
unobtainium or whatever it's called okay

2424
01:53:01,500 --> 01:52:59,080
and so going back right now we're at 118

2425
01:53:03,390 --> 01:53:01,510
so I get one what yeah once it needs NC

2426
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:03,400
which is Muscovy n' right right so I

2427
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:05,770
could say right now

2428
01:53:12,090 --> 01:53:09,040
Amen you know I I was with these aliens

2429
01:53:14,730 --> 01:53:12,100
and they showed me this thing and they

2430
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:14,740
were using and and and I'm with another

2431
01:53:18,270 --> 01:53:16,210
guy from the government and we're all

2432
01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:18,280
standing there together and I said so

2433
01:53:24,900 --> 01:53:19,750
man what are they using and they're

2434
01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:24,910
using you know element 122 really yeah

2435
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:27,310
but it hasn't been discovered yet well

2436
01:53:33,630 --> 01:53:29,890
you know what right in five years

2437
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:33,640
we're gonna get to element 122 but what

2438
01:53:40,890 --> 01:53:37,360
does that have to do with me right so

2439
01:53:43,620 --> 01:53:40,900
element element 115 on the Periodic

2440
01:53:49,770 --> 01:53:43,630
Chart how do we know that that element

2441
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:49,780
is what Bob Lazar was a you know talking

2442
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:52,570
about how do we know we don't we quite

2443
01:53:59,310 --> 01:53:54,850
simply don't we're confusing it the only

2444
01:54:02,130 --> 01:53:59,320
reason why is the number 115 you know

2445
01:54:04,530 --> 01:54:02,140
and and and that's it so Bob knows just

2446
01:54:09,210 --> 01:54:04,540
like I do now right that eventually

2447
01:54:11,970 --> 01:54:09,220
there's gonna be an element 122 when it

2448
01:54:13,410 --> 01:54:11,980
gets discovery that suddenly my story is

2449
01:54:14,310 --> 01:54:13,420
correct so no that doesn't validate

2450
01:54:17,220 --> 01:54:14,320
anything

2451
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:17,230
what does validate Bob is he if he

2452
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:21,760
produces what this element 115 what he's

2453
01:54:27,540 --> 01:54:24,370
calling element 115 is produced and then

2454
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:27,550
you show it and then BOOM and and we get

2455
01:54:31,810 --> 01:54:29,770
to test it out and check it out and and

2456
01:54:34,270 --> 01:54:31,820
that'll be the end of the story on that

2457
01:54:36,430 --> 01:54:34,280
and he knows that he knows that just

2458
01:54:40,270 --> 01:54:36,440
whip it out whatever it is wherever it

2459
01:54:43,839 --> 01:54:40,280
is let's go and and it was it was a lot

2460
01:54:47,649 --> 01:54:43,849
for the FBI was well and that was a part

2461
01:54:49,450 --> 01:54:47,659
of the film that was that was the only

2462
01:54:51,790 --> 01:54:49,460
part that I know of in the film last

2463
01:54:53,319 --> 01:54:51,800
night that was covered up well I find it

2464
01:54:54,669 --> 01:54:53,329
interesting that that's the second raid

2465
01:54:57,250 --> 01:54:54,679
on this place that's what I find

2466
01:54:59,470 --> 01:54:57,260
interesting you know the second raid

2467
01:55:01,839 --> 01:54:59,480
that happened after yeah I mean

2468
01:55:04,660 --> 01:55:01,849
interview after the first raid yeah yeah

2469
01:55:07,300 --> 01:55:04,670
so really place is rated well yours is

2470
01:55:09,129 --> 01:55:07,310
back to the same thing you know well I

2471
01:55:13,540 --> 01:55:09,139
think that's what he was not in Michigan

2472
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:13,550
about he was he was where with yeah I

2473
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:14,960
think there was two there was one in

2474
01:55:21,339 --> 01:55:19,040
Nevada or New Mexico with United nuclear

2475
01:55:22,930 --> 01:55:21,349
and then one in Michigan I could be

2476
01:55:24,700 --> 01:55:22,940
wrong doesn't matter but the the one

2477
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:24,710
that Wolfie and I are talking about now

2478
01:55:30,189 --> 01:55:27,440
spoiler alert that we're doing an

2479
01:55:32,859 --> 01:55:30,199
interview in the woods this secret

2480
01:55:36,399 --> 01:55:32,869
clandestine interview is good too where

2481
01:55:40,270 --> 01:55:36,409
they're talking about 115 and the next

2482
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:40,280
day after this interview Bob's place

2483
01:55:44,830 --> 01:55:42,770
gets raided and this is like last year

2484
01:55:47,169 --> 01:55:44,840
or you know it's recent while they're

2485
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:47,179
filming the movie and they raid it and

2486
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:50,980
during the raid allegedly the FBI

2487
01:55:57,339 --> 01:55:54,320
mentions the interview an element 115

2488
01:56:00,160 --> 01:55:57,349
that happened the day before when Jeremy

2489
01:56:03,010 --> 01:56:00,170
and Bob Lazar are out in the middle of

2490
01:56:05,950 --> 01:56:03,020
the woods alone shooting this that's

2491
01:56:12,370 --> 01:56:05,960
pretty interesting if it is like they

2492
01:56:14,620 --> 01:56:12,380
say it happened yeah I mean it is

2493
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:14,630
interesting like I mean why were they

2494
01:56:18,430 --> 01:56:16,010
still spying on Bob and they had a

2495
01:56:22,930 --> 01:56:18,440
segment and 30 years later they still

2496
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:22,940
think he has it you know the what do you

2497
01:56:27,459 --> 01:56:25,730
write you know I just I want a simple

2498
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:27,469
answer on this before we get to the

2499
01:56:32,740 --> 01:56:30,290
break and he talked about this earlier

2500
01:56:37,319 --> 01:56:32,750
and we kind of blew past it do you think

2501
01:56:43,770 --> 01:56:41,080
have no idea but I'm sure he's smart

2502
01:56:45,580 --> 01:56:43,780
enough not to keep them on his property

2503
01:56:50,170 --> 01:56:45,590
somewhere else

2504
01:56:55,330 --> 01:56:50,180
I would say Gina but no I'm being

2505
01:56:56,590 --> 01:56:55,340
serious for a second yeah I don't know

2506
01:56:58,720 --> 01:56:56,600
if we have it or not I mean I really

2507
01:57:01,150 --> 01:56:58,730
don't know but I mean evidently they're

2508
01:57:04,300 --> 01:57:01,160
still looking for it I mean I remember

2509
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:04,310
when I remember when a Chuck Clark I'm

2510
01:57:07,390 --> 01:57:06,110
waiting down at area 51 you know these

2511
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:07,400
are just computers and everything they

2512
01:57:11,260 --> 01:57:09,920
came and actually came in and they were

2513
01:57:14,590 --> 01:57:11,270
looking for something if you know what I

2514
01:57:16,030 --> 01:57:14,600
mean and they didn't find it but he got

2515
01:57:18,250 --> 01:57:16,040
raided and they knew when he was going

2516
01:57:19,420 --> 01:57:18,260
on vacation they actually knew he was

2517
01:57:21,370 --> 01:57:19,430
going on vacation so then they could

2518
01:57:23,790 --> 01:57:21,380
raid his place because he wasn't they

2519
01:57:26,860 --> 01:57:23,800
knew he wasn't gonna be there you know

2520
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:26,870
yeah so you know that's that's that's

2521
01:57:38,650 --> 01:57:35,950
yeah and so this supports to me this

2522
01:57:39,970 --> 01:57:38,660
supports Bob lazarre's case and when we

2523
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:39,980
come back we'll talk about this a bit

2524
01:57:44,830 --> 01:57:43,250
more in that if there is no element 115

2525
01:57:46,210 --> 01:57:44,840
then what are they looking for what did

2526
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:46,220
they what is it that they think that he

2527
01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:50,330
has what plutonium uranium we all doubt

2528
01:57:55,330 --> 01:57:52,880
that right so maybe he does and that

2529
01:57:57,970 --> 01:57:55,340
they know it that he was there he worked

2530
01:58:03,460 --> 01:57:57,980
around this he said specific things

2531
01:58:06,250 --> 01:58:03,470
about 500 pounds of it right so does

2532
01:58:07,930 --> 01:58:06,260
this prop up his story that's I find it

2533
01:58:10,090 --> 01:58:07,940
very very interesting is take a break

2534
01:58:13,210 --> 01:58:10,100
right here this is fade to black tonight

2535
01:58:16,180 --> 01:58:13,220
doing a full review of Jeremy corbels

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01:58:18,460 --> 01:58:16,190
new film Bob Lazar area 51 of flying

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saucers if you attended or a vis seen

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minutes just call six oh five five six

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two four four eight two you can listen

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02:02:37,570 --> 02:02:29,699
to me Jimmy Church on any phone anytime

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02:02:41,620 --> 02:02:39,270
[Music]

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02:02:46,340 --> 02:02:41,630
[Applause]

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02:02:49,030 --> 02:02:46,350
you wanna know a secret I love ponies I

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02:02:51,590 --> 02:02:49,040
really love ponies I'm serious I

2649
02:02:55,850 --> 02:02:51,600
couldn't stay sane without Pony mr.

2650
02:03:00,720 --> 02:02:55,860
Brooks I fade to black because you never

2651
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:02,800
this is fade to black

2652
02:03:08,410 --> 02:03:04,730
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2653
02:03:10,780 --> 02:03:08,420
radio network and kgr a the global radio

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02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:10,790
alliance

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02:03:25,460 --> 02:03:22,610
[Music]

2656
02:03:27,470 --> 02:03:25,470
okay welcome back fade to black I'm here

2657
02:03:30,140 --> 02:03:27,480
Jimmy Church tonight reviewing the new

2658
02:03:31,940 --> 02:03:30,150
Bob Lazar movie from Jeremy Korbel

2659
02:03:35,090 --> 02:03:31,950
called Bob Lazar

2660
02:03:36,860 --> 02:03:35,100
area 51 in flying saucers doing this

2661
02:03:39,050 --> 02:03:36,870
tonight with wolf McCarran we're gonna

2662
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:39,060
jump into a different subject on the

2663
02:03:44,660 --> 02:03:41,610
film now certainly one of the most

2664
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:44,670
controversial parts which is his

2665
02:03:49,550 --> 02:03:47,130
educational background and MIT and

2666
02:03:53,870 --> 02:03:49,560
Caltech and before we get there

2667
02:03:59,570 --> 02:03:53,880
opening up the phone lines 3 2 3 2 7 5 9

2668
02:04:02,000 --> 02:03:59,580
6 9 5 or 8 1 8 9 2 1 6 9 to 9 if you

2669
02:04:04,460 --> 02:04:02,010
have seen the movie if you have seen it

2670
02:04:08,660 --> 02:04:04,470
I do want to hear from you and we will

2671
02:04:12,950 --> 02:04:08,670
take your phone calls and let's talk

2672
02:04:17,030 --> 02:04:12,960
about it now what very curious your

2673
02:04:21,770 --> 02:04:17,040
thoughts on this wolf in that what was

2674
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:21,780
pointed out in the movie was that the

2675
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:27,110
MIT and Caltech section of Bob Lazar

2676
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:32,250
story is that we are to ignore it those

2677
02:04:37,180 --> 02:04:34,650
are the words that were used in the film

2678
02:04:40,430 --> 02:04:37,190
last night what do you think about that

2679
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:40,440
yeah I saw that I took notes about that

2680
02:04:46,790 --> 02:04:42,330
he to me it seemed it like it was

2681
02:04:48,500 --> 02:04:46,800
deflection you know it seems like you

2682
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:48,510
know field magic tricks look at the left

2683
02:04:51,890 --> 02:04:50,610
hand with the you know look at the left

2684
02:04:55,850 --> 02:04:51,900
hand the right hand is doing something

2685
02:04:57,920 --> 02:04:55,860
else over here and and you heard Bob

2686
02:04:59,690 --> 02:04:57,930
kind of say like I don't want people to

2687
02:05:01,180 --> 02:04:59,700
talk about the UM I fear that stuff I

2688
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:01,190
wanted to talk about the stuff that I

2689
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:04,410
was doing it to prove to area 51 you

2690
02:05:08,420 --> 02:05:06,090
know that kind of thing the stuff that

2691
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:08,430
all revealed he said that that's is what

2692
02:05:13,310 --> 02:05:10,890
is important here and I look and I'm

2693
02:05:15,380 --> 02:05:13,320
looking at that like okay let's say he

2694
02:05:17,060 --> 02:05:15,390
lied about him say people do lie on the

2695
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:17,070
resume everybody knows this right there

2696
02:05:20,810 --> 02:05:18,690
are people that do lie to get jobs on

2697
02:05:22,430 --> 02:05:20,820
the resume actually what's funny as I

2698
02:05:26,090 --> 02:05:22,440
looked up that the lady that used to be

2699
02:05:28,970 --> 02:05:26,100
the Dean of AI MIT and teachers the Dean

2700
02:05:30,740 --> 02:05:28,980
of the school she lied and the school

2701
02:05:33,700 --> 02:05:30,750
found out about her and they kicked her

2702
02:05:35,450 --> 02:05:33,710
up so Stephen even the own Dean ride

2703
02:05:39,260 --> 02:05:35,460
that was actually

2704
02:05:40,730 --> 02:05:39,270
worked at MIT for years so people do lie

2705
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:40,740
on the resume now let's say he did lie

2706
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:42,090
about that at nothing he did lie about

2707
02:05:45,380 --> 02:05:44,010
it but he can't come out now and just

2708
02:05:47,180 --> 02:05:45,390
say okay I lied about that but this

2709
02:05:49,310 --> 02:05:47,190
stuff's real because if you just say

2710
02:05:51,500 --> 02:05:49,320
that that it's just not gonna work right

2711
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:51,510
right well I think he's trying to poopoo

2712
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:53,850
that stuff like oh we have to care about

2713
02:05:59,450 --> 02:05:55,920
what I'm saying here not about with my

2714
02:06:01,220 --> 02:05:59,460
past so because he says he doesn't want

2715
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:01,230
if he admits that he lied about it but

2716
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:03,570
it ruins the whole story you know you

2717
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:08,690
know saying why not certainly in this

2718
02:06:17,510 --> 02:06:12,650
movie last night okay

2719
02:06:23,450 --> 02:06:17,520
why not produce a diploma see this is

2720
02:06:25,670 --> 02:06:23,460
the thing okay look I don't care where I

2721
02:06:27,980 --> 02:06:25,680
went to school I went to so many

2722
02:06:30,650 --> 02:06:27,990
elementary schools I have forgotten some

2723
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:30,660
of their names okay so I understand that

2724
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:34,770
but every school that I went to every

2725
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:39,690
class I know every teacher in a general

2726
02:06:47,210 --> 02:06:43,920
sense but when I get up to more recent

2727
02:06:50,990 --> 02:06:47,220
events in my life like sixth grade

2728
02:06:57,110 --> 02:06:51,000
junior high schools certainly high

2729
02:07:00,440 --> 02:06:57,120
schools I went to three and through any

2730
02:07:02,150 --> 02:07:00,450
other higher education classes that I

2731
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:02,160
took I never graduated from anywhere

2732
02:07:09,230 --> 02:07:06,090
okay I took a lot of classes that word

2733
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:09,240
you know whatever extensions I did a lot

2734
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:10,890
of that kind of stuff I can tell you

2735
02:07:17,810 --> 02:07:14,370
every teacher I have plenty of paperwork

2736
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:17,820
I've got plenty of certificates of

2737
02:07:22,730 --> 02:07:19,650
achievement right I got tons of that

2738
02:07:25,070 --> 02:07:22,740
stuff I saved it all and and any one of

2739
02:07:28,610 --> 02:07:25,080
those teachers remembers me we did

2740
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:28,620
projects together I can name classmates

2741
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:31,770
and and years and everything all the way

2742
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:35,490
up you know I can do this that's the one

2743
02:07:41,900 --> 02:07:39,090
thing that Bob if if all of this

2744
02:07:44,150 --> 02:07:41,910
genuinely happen it would be the easiest

2745
02:07:46,220 --> 02:07:44,160
thing to prove it's the one thing you've

2746
02:07:48,259 --> 02:07:46,230
got going for you I understand

2747
02:07:51,290 --> 02:07:48,269
area 51 Cold War

2748
02:07:54,049 --> 02:07:51,300
purrs right and scientists that may be a

2749
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:54,059
little tough to get to okay so we take

2750
02:07:57,950 --> 02:07:55,679
believe you really believe he's a

2751
02:08:00,109 --> 02:07:57,960
scientist because he's a scientist why

2752
02:08:02,270 --> 02:08:00,119
aren't there he okay if he said he did a

2753
02:08:04,850 --> 02:08:02,280
thesis why why wasn't anything published

2754
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:04,860
as he ever debated other scientists is

2755
02:08:09,979 --> 02:08:07,050
he really a scientist I'm not really

2756
02:08:12,739 --> 02:08:09,989
sure about that you know right I mean

2757
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:12,749
and even when he worked in Los Alamos

2758
02:08:17,180 --> 02:08:14,690
they said that he worked for Kurt Mayer

2759
02:08:19,009 --> 02:08:17,190
okay that he did was an outside

2760
02:08:23,390 --> 02:08:19,019
contractor he didn't really work in Los

2761
02:08:25,850 --> 02:08:23,400
Alamos no and I did this this is the

2762
02:08:29,089 --> 02:08:25,860
thing wolf when it comes to that I

2763
02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:29,099
worked at Bell Laboratories okay I did

2764
02:08:35,029 --> 02:08:32,400
yeah as a contractor I work for a

2765
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:35,039
company called CDI I didn't work

2766
02:08:39,259 --> 02:08:37,650
directly for Bell Labs I worked for CDI

2767
02:08:41,450 --> 02:08:39,269
and I worked at Bell Labs for three

2768
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:41,460
years as a contractor I was an outsider

2769
02:08:49,250 --> 02:08:45,090
and it sucked right because you're like

2770
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:49,260
you're banished you know the you know

2771
02:08:54,379 --> 02:08:51,210
you're not a real Bell Labs guy but

2772
02:08:57,919 --> 02:08:54,389
anyway right that that being said I can

2773
02:09:00,200 --> 02:08:57,929
still I can name my supervisor at CDI I

2774
02:09:01,879 --> 02:09:00,210
can name my supervisor at Bell Labs I

2775
02:09:04,129 --> 02:09:01,889
can name all of my co-workers at Bell

2776
02:09:11,149 --> 02:09:04,139
Labs some of them I'm Stan touch with to

2777
02:09:13,459 --> 02:09:11,159
this day right I still owe them the

2778
02:09:19,430 --> 02:09:13,469
Caltech or whatever that he interviewed

2779
02:09:21,649 --> 02:09:19,440
and that's not even in the movie no well

2780
02:09:25,549 --> 02:09:21,659
okay so let's get back to the basic

2781
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:25,559
point here though and which is it's very

2782
02:09:31,220 --> 02:09:29,010
simple you know what year it's never

2783
02:09:35,390 --> 02:09:31,230
sketchy you know what year you graduated

2784
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:35,400
and you have the diploma you can't name

2785
02:09:43,279 --> 02:09:38,130
a professor you can't now and so this is

2786
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:43,289
this is my concern here I get it if you

2787
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:48,090
be s to your way through EG&G to get a

2788
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:53,210
contract gig or get in over at area 51 I

2789
02:09:59,660 --> 02:09:56,130
understand that just come clean about it

2790
02:10:01,820 --> 02:09:59,670
right I didn't go to MIT I didn't go to

2791
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:01,830
MIT it was impossible

2792
02:10:07,850 --> 02:10:04,560
I didn't go to Caltech I did work at

2793
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:07,860
area 51 and I biessed my way in there

2794
02:10:13,340 --> 02:10:10,800
and I got the gig and I saw things there

2795
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:13,350
isn't anybody that would that would hold

2796
02:10:20,570 --> 02:10:16,170
anything against him because it glides

2797
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:20,580
up you know well see in this and I'm

2798
02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:23,610
trying to I'm trying to defend Bob's

2799
02:10:29,300 --> 02:10:26,610
position here because when I got hired

2800
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:29,310
and I'm being serious here when I get

2801
02:10:36,650 --> 02:10:32,490
hired by CDI to go work at Bell Labs

2802
02:10:39,020 --> 02:10:36,660
I wasn't even 18 no collar I've just

2803
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:39,030
gotten out of high school that was 17

2804
02:10:43,190 --> 02:10:40,110
years old

2805
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:43,200
and I turned 18 while working at Bell

2806
02:10:48,140 --> 02:10:45,570
Labs which freaked out everybody at the

2807
02:10:49,610 --> 02:10:48,150
laboratory I came into work one day and

2808
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:49,620
said hey today's my birthday cool how

2809
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:50,610
old are you 18

2810
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:54,570
what right so anyway I went through that

2811
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:57,360
but I didn't go to college so I can

2812
02:11:01,610 --> 02:11:00,000
understand where the credentials and

2813
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:01,620
everything you're not presenting stuff

2814
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:04,530
and you get the gig over at EG&G and you

2815
02:11:09,740 --> 02:11:07,050
get spirited over to area 51 and you see

2816
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:09,750
things you don't you know after the fact

2817
02:11:13,970 --> 02:11:11,970
when bob was saying and I'm just

2818
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:13,980
assuming these things here when you

2819
02:11:17,780 --> 02:11:15,690
start saying I went to MIT I'm a

2820
02:11:20,330 --> 02:11:17,790
physicist and I went to Caltech and I

2821
02:11:22,730 --> 02:11:20,340
graduated I think he got in over his

2822
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:22,740
head that doesn't mean he didn't work at

2823
02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:25,770
at area 51 for a week or two weeks or

2824
02:11:30,500 --> 02:11:28,170
whatever that he was there but just come

2825
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:30,510
clean about it and I thought that

2826
02:11:35,330 --> 02:11:33,090
hopefully in this movie last night and

2827
02:11:38,270 --> 02:11:35,340
we were gonna see a diploma from MIT or

2828
02:11:40,820 --> 02:11:38,280
Caltech instead they said let's just

2829
02:11:43,220 --> 02:11:40,830
ignore it it's not the part of the story

2830
02:11:43,700 --> 02:11:43,230
that is important here well I agree with

2831
02:11:50,990 --> 02:11:43,710
that

2832
02:11:54,260 --> 02:11:51,000
dude you were living in Woodland Hills

2833
02:11:59,260 --> 02:11:54,270
going to Pierce College where's the four

2834
02:12:03,200 --> 02:11:59,270
years or six years of you living in

2835
02:12:06,110 --> 02:12:03,210
Boston right that and that's that's the

2836
02:12:08,090 --> 02:12:06,120
critical thing that's it yeah if you

2837
02:12:10,270 --> 02:12:08,100
can't you don't even have it well how

2838
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:10,280
did he commute how did he commute their

2839
02:12:18,750 --> 02:12:14,370
private plane out of Van Nuys Airport

2840
02:12:24,510 --> 02:12:18,760
who's on Cher's jet share loan demand

2841
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:24,520
part so yeah listen I'm gonna let

2842
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:26,050
everybody know now all of the phone

2843
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:27,610
calls that are coming in you're calling

2844
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:30,490
in on the wrong line call in on 3 2 3 2

2845
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:35,770
7 5 9 6 9 5 or 8 1 8 9 20 1 6 9 - 9 s

2846
02:12:40,290 --> 02:12:37,810
those are the lines that are open

2847
02:12:42,810 --> 02:12:40,300
I'm not putting anybody on hold on the

2848
02:12:48,180 --> 02:12:42,820
main lines okay so I would love to hear

2849
02:12:50,460 --> 02:12:48,190
from you but 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 or man

2850
02:12:55,170 --> 02:12:50,470
the phone cut what did I just say and

2851
02:13:02,250 --> 02:12:55,180
they just realign it up ok 3 2 3 8 2 5

2852
02:13:07,140 --> 02:13:02,260
or 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 or 8 1 8 9 2 1 6

2853
02:13:10,170 --> 02:13:07,150
9 - 9 but do you have do you have issues

2854
02:13:12,570 --> 02:13:10,180
with that his education do you think

2855
02:13:15,570 --> 02:13:12,580
that it's possible that he went to

2856
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:15,580
Caltech at MIT and just doesn't remember

2857
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:17,890
his professors names or any other

2858
02:13:26,910 --> 02:13:24,960
like Destler and I think saying I was

2859
02:13:30,420 --> 02:13:26,920
trying to find a guy I think that was

2860
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:30,430
whoa today's name what yeah yeah duck

2861
02:13:37,980 --> 02:13:35,490
slur was his teacher at Pierce College

2862
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:37,990
okay yeah I don't know if you give a

2863
02:13:47,790 --> 02:13:41,890
name of any of the well at your at the

2864
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:47,800
alien event in 1993 he gave duck slurs

2865
02:13:53,790 --> 02:13:50,010
name and the other one - hallf

2866
02:13:56,850 --> 02:13:53,800
HOH yeah I forget the other and that guy

2867
02:13:59,640 --> 02:13:56,860
was like his his vocational teacher in

2868
02:14:00,450 --> 02:13:59,650
in in junior high school they found him

2869
02:14:03,140 --> 02:14:00,460
in a yearbook

2870
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:03,150
but neither neither of those names were

2871
02:14:08,910 --> 02:14:06,730
ever at Caltech or MIT but said let's

2872
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:08,920
take some phone calls here a wolf let's

2873
02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:12,490
go to area code five one two you're up

2874
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:16,510
on fade to black who's calling I just

2875
02:14:25,899 --> 02:14:22,320
hung up okay you know what's funny is

2876
02:14:30,359 --> 02:14:25,909
when when calls come in

2877
02:14:35,409 --> 02:14:30,369
that and its deer-in-the-headlights

2878
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:35,419
right it's just really funny so but not

2879
02:14:40,359 --> 02:14:38,570
about Stanton or anybody else has done

2880
02:14:42,310 --> 02:14:40,369
research into this I'm specifically

2881
02:14:44,949 --> 02:14:42,320
asking you wolf

2882
02:14:47,199 --> 02:14:44,959
were you expecting some educational

2883
02:14:50,529 --> 02:14:47,209
credentials to finally surface in the

2884
02:14:53,469 --> 02:14:50,539
movie well yeah I would have been nice I

2885
02:14:54,819 --> 02:14:53,479
was yeah I was hoping something that I'd

2886
02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:54,829
like that would have happens I mean I

2887
02:14:59,109 --> 02:14:57,199
was kind of I think it was kind of neat

2888
02:15:00,549 --> 02:14:59,119
I've got the mic big pin thing finding

2889
02:15:03,459 --> 02:15:00,559
that it was kind of cool but they didn't

2890
02:15:04,719 --> 02:15:03,469
really have him on camera or he didn't

2891
02:15:07,149 --> 02:15:04,729
want to be on camera but they didn't

2892
02:15:08,350 --> 02:15:07,159
have they did have some audio on the

2893
02:15:09,879 --> 02:15:08,360
coast to coast of where they didn't have

2894
02:15:13,299 --> 02:15:09,889
a thing and uses the movie so I thought

2895
02:15:14,469 --> 02:15:13,309
that was kind of strange but uh yeah

2896
02:15:17,439 --> 02:15:14,479
something like that would have been nice

2897
02:15:19,479 --> 02:15:17,449
but like I said I don't know the movie

2898
02:15:22,149 --> 02:15:19,489
the movie movies just left me with more

2899
02:15:27,429 --> 02:15:22,159
more questions I think you know what do

2900
02:15:30,729 --> 02:15:27,439
you think when we look at these movies

2901
02:15:35,919 --> 02:15:30,739
that have been released lately where

2902
02:15:42,399 --> 02:15:35,929
they seem to be focused on the opposite

2903
02:15:44,409 --> 02:15:42,409
of you or I in that movie would have to

2904
02:15:46,689 --> 02:15:44,419
have a lot of information in it for you

2905
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:46,699
to go whoa I didn't know any of this

2906
02:15:53,500 --> 02:15:50,090
right it would have to be just a crazy

2907
02:15:56,979 --> 02:15:53,510
amount of just secret never revealed

2908
02:15:59,679 --> 02:15:56,989
before stuff and I understand that but

2909
02:16:03,370 --> 02:15:59,689
these movies seem to be dumbed down

2910
02:16:05,290 --> 02:16:03,380
quite a bit is it done to just get this

2911
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:05,300
subject out to as many people as

2912
02:16:09,069 --> 02:16:07,119
possible

2913
02:16:11,020 --> 02:16:09,079
well I don't know I think he could have

2914
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:11,030
totally could have kind of talked bomb

2915
02:16:15,009 --> 02:16:12,880
into the making this movie too because

2916
02:16:17,140 --> 02:16:15,019
as you know like you know all the

2917
02:16:19,089 --> 02:16:17,150
earliest ABAB did you know UFOs and the

2918
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:19,099
government Bible and all that stuff you

2919
02:16:22,540 --> 02:16:20,570
know back then the quality was crappy

2920
02:16:24,699 --> 02:16:22,550
was like VHS or super VHS we're gonna

2921
02:16:26,319 --> 02:16:24,709
have HD and all this stuff and it's been

2922
02:16:28,569 --> 02:16:26,329
30 years and you know as well as I do

2923
02:16:30,009 --> 02:16:28,579
they they can take movies every 10 years

2924
02:16:31,569 --> 02:16:30,019
they just came out with Robin Hood and

2925
02:16:35,250 --> 02:16:31,579
every 10 years I can make another Robin

2926
02:16:37,870 --> 02:16:35,260
Hood because you know you know people

2927
02:16:39,259 --> 02:16:37,880
you know the age range changes all the

2928
02:16:41,269 --> 02:16:39,269
time so

2929
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:41,279
can always rehash everything like every

2930
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:43,439
10 years so maybe those are just thought

2931
02:16:48,259 --> 02:16:45,599
like hey it's been 30 years

2932
02:16:49,910 --> 02:16:48,269
I want something to just you know I've

2933
02:16:51,620 --> 02:16:49,920
gotten older and I just want to put it

2934
02:16:53,389 --> 02:16:51,630
out there again so maybe you'd a newer

2935
02:16:55,759 --> 02:16:53,399
generation can you know who he is about

2936
02:16:57,500 --> 02:16:55,769
to about it too and then just put it out

2937
02:16:58,819 --> 02:16:57,510
that way but I think it will give it to

2938
02:17:01,189 --> 02:16:58,829
you a lot of the people that didn't know

2939
02:17:03,709 --> 02:17:01,199
about him especially the ancient alien

2940
02:17:05,330 --> 02:17:03,719
people bands or whatever that do nothing

2941
02:17:07,189 --> 02:17:05,340
about it'll give a dictation a different

2942
02:17:08,689 --> 02:17:07,199
spin and they'll kind of know who those

2943
02:17:11,029 --> 02:17:08,699
are is and so it gives them a little bit

2944
02:17:13,490 --> 02:17:11,039
more you know like a newer outlook on

2945
02:17:16,129 --> 02:17:13,500
the whole thing you know so that's

2946
02:17:18,439 --> 02:17:16,139
interesting that you say that maybe he

2947
02:17:20,149 --> 02:17:18,449
had to be talked into this because that

2948
02:17:22,819 --> 02:17:20,159
I was always I think it's on the front

2949
02:17:25,490 --> 02:17:22,829
of everybody's mind why now why why is

2950
02:17:28,580 --> 02:17:25,500
Bob coming out at the end what's the

2951
02:17:30,529 --> 02:17:28,590
endgame right I totally agree one let's

2952
02:17:32,029 --> 02:17:30,539
go to area code three two three right

2953
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:32,039
here in Los Angeles oh you're up next

2954
02:17:52,250 --> 02:17:37,679
time fade to black you're live continue

2955
02:17:57,410 --> 02:17:52,260
Church yes Alex welcome welcome to the

2956
02:17:59,240 --> 02:17:57,420
show my friend and okay thoughts after

2957
02:18:02,809 --> 02:17:59,250
after the movie last night and again I

2958
02:18:04,339 --> 02:18:02,819
haven't seen you since right before the

2959
02:18:07,339 --> 02:18:04,349
movie I didn't even see you after the

2960
02:18:11,299 --> 02:18:07,349
movie so it's my first chance to ask you

2961
02:18:14,089 --> 02:18:11,309
what did you think was a nice homage to

2962
02:18:17,959 --> 02:18:14,099
Bob Lazar and it was a good George Knapp

2963
02:18:19,099 --> 02:18:17,969
documentary you know but again I mean I

2964
02:18:20,419 --> 02:18:19,109
think I agree with everything you've

2965
02:18:29,359 --> 02:18:20,429
been saying and I hate to agree people

2966
02:18:30,769 --> 02:18:29,369
as you know especially me we're not the

2967
02:18:32,809 --> 02:18:30,779
target audience for this you know I

2968
02:18:34,639 --> 02:18:32,819
think it's there it's morph right

2969
02:18:36,740 --> 02:18:34,649
thinking I don't want to use words

2970
02:18:38,179 --> 02:18:36,750
fanboy negatively because it's not but I

2971
02:18:40,370 --> 02:18:38,189
think it's more geared towards I think

2972
02:18:42,169 --> 02:18:40,380
people that they're fanboys their life

2973
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:42,179
want to be entertained that you know

2974
02:18:46,129 --> 02:18:44,399
I've been following Bob Lazar for years

2975
02:18:47,899 --> 02:18:46,139
and they love the guy but from a

2976
02:18:50,089 --> 02:18:47,909
research standpoint we didn't really get

2977
02:18:52,009 --> 02:18:50,099
anything new and I don't know if it did

2978
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:52,019
anything to advance the story in a

2979
02:18:56,270 --> 02:18:53,010
positive direction

2980
02:18:59,090 --> 02:18:56,280
or negative direction you know did and

2981
02:19:00,890 --> 02:18:59,100
and coming away from the film and I

2982
02:19:05,470 --> 02:19:00,900
understand all of that Alex but for you

2983
02:19:08,030 --> 02:19:05,480
personally did you understand what

2984
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:08,040
Jeremy was trying to do for this because

2985
02:19:12,050 --> 02:19:09,810
you have an opportunity you got friggin

2986
02:19:12,951 --> 02:19:12,060
a living legend right you got bob lazar

2987
02:19:15,860 --> 02:19:12,961
yeah

2988
02:19:19,430 --> 02:19:15,870
the enigma that he is you have an

2989
02:19:22,780 --> 02:19:19,440
opportunity here to literally hit a home

2990
02:19:25,911 --> 02:19:22,790
run right straight to the moon right

2991
02:19:30,081 --> 02:19:25,921
yeah did what was that opportunity

2992
02:19:31,610 --> 02:19:30,091
missed yeah I think so I think I like

2993
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:31,620
Jeremy I've met him you know just wanted

2994
02:19:35,871 --> 02:19:33,510
he's a nice guy I think is very talented

2995
02:19:39,530 --> 02:19:35,881
yeah and I think he got overwhelmed with

2996
02:19:41,900 --> 02:19:39,540
his love of the subject and bob lazar

2997
02:19:44,180 --> 02:19:41,910
and in you know obviously this movies

2998
02:19:45,951 --> 02:19:44,190
been in his head for years you know I

2999
02:19:47,451 --> 02:19:45,961
don't know yesterday years ago or

3000
02:19:51,951 --> 02:19:47,461
whatever it was that he said should I

3001
02:19:53,871 --> 02:19:51,961
think it he just he was he's variable

3002
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:53,881
the objective at that point and that's

3003
02:20:00,440 --> 02:19:55,530
thinking I got lost and I think he got

3004
02:20:02,001 --> 02:20:00,450
lost in the project on some level I want

3005
02:20:04,461 --> 02:20:02,011
to ask you some direct questions and

3006
02:20:07,701 --> 02:20:04,471
you've been researching and been a part

3007
02:20:10,911 --> 02:20:07,711
of this community for forever and and I

3008
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:10,921
say that as a term of endearment but

3009
02:20:14,810 --> 02:20:12,330
you've been doing this for a very long

3010
02:20:16,761 --> 02:20:14,820
time and I respect your opinion even

3011
02:20:21,261 --> 02:20:16,771
though it's very rarely correct but that

3012
02:20:23,690 --> 02:20:21,271
being said that being said and this

3013
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:23,700
audience needs to know that Alex and I

3014
02:20:30,770 --> 02:20:28,650
and wool we we have stayed up to two

3015
02:20:33,591 --> 02:20:30,780
three four o'clock in the morning many

3016
02:20:36,980 --> 02:20:33,601
nights debating all of these issues and

3017
02:20:42,041 --> 02:20:36,990
nobody's have been a clear winner so so

3018
02:20:46,451 --> 02:20:42,051
with that do you think that Bob Lazar

3019
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:46,461
set foot on to area 51

3020
02:20:53,150 --> 02:20:50,610
absolutely 100% okay you know so we have

3021
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:53,160
a problem here don't we because we've

3022
02:20:57,921 --> 02:20:55,650
we've got that and then we've got

3023
02:21:00,791 --> 02:20:57,931
everything else it's like Alex what do

3024
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:00,801
we do with this and how do we fix it I

3025
02:21:06,770 --> 02:21:03,690
don't know how to fix it I think that

3026
02:21:09,470 --> 02:21:06,780
look I think bob was Lazar

3027
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:09,480
they're carefully selected in in you

3028
02:21:12,350 --> 02:21:10,770
ahead of time these problems are gonna

3029
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,360
arise or there one of these problems to

3030
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,920
life it's just another form of

3031
02:21:17,480 --> 02:21:15,600
disinformation I think you know it

3032
02:21:20,030 --> 02:21:17,490
doesn't mean that he was in there and he

3033
02:21:22,460 --> 02:21:20,040
didn't get to work on you know whatever

3034
02:21:24,650 --> 02:21:22,470
he worked on but I think it was very

3035
02:21:26,420 --> 02:21:24,660
carefully planned and I think you know I

3036
02:21:27,650 --> 02:21:26,430
think the whole thing in some way is

3037
02:21:29,330 --> 02:21:27,660
just a little bit of a setup from

3038
02:21:33,460 --> 02:21:29,340
nothing the get-go at least that's my

3039
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:33,470
take on it and what what do you think

3040
02:21:37,430 --> 02:21:36,210
and and I want to continue this because

3041
02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:37,440
we're gonna head towards a break and I

3042
02:21:43,610 --> 02:21:40,770
want to keep this up after the break

3043
02:21:49,040 --> 02:21:43,620
Alex what do you think the significance

3044
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:49,050
of bob lazar and george knapp has been

3045
02:21:55,610 --> 02:21:52,560
for this UFO community it what do you

3046
02:21:57,290 --> 02:21:55,620
think the significance has been i think

3047
02:21:59,090 --> 02:21:57,300
it's one of the strongholds one of the

3048
02:22:01,730 --> 02:21:59,100
base for this community i think every

3049
02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:01,740
so-called whistleblower that has come

3050
02:22:08,210 --> 02:22:04,770
after bob lazar from burek well you know

3051
02:22:10,220 --> 02:22:08,220
who i think was a full of crap to you

3052
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:10,230
know to the quarry goods and emma smith

3053
02:22:15,530 --> 02:22:12,090
of today this was the beginning this

3054
02:22:18,140 --> 02:22:15,540
started all of that and it's i don't

3055
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:18,150
think you can it's worth other two top

3056
02:22:22,190 --> 02:22:20,490
three most important events in UFO

3057
02:22:24,170 --> 02:22:22,200
history i think you know you get roswell

3058
02:22:24,770 --> 02:22:24,180
you're bob lazar everything else kinda

3059
02:22:28,010 --> 02:22:24,780
came after that

3060
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:28,020
and evolved from that some a lot of

3061
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:29,850
mythology I think evolve out of that as

3062
02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:32,250
fortunately but also you know a lot of

3063
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:34,530
people started with boo Bob Lazar I

3064
02:22:38,270 --> 02:22:36,240
remember last that story first came out

3065
02:22:40,100 --> 02:22:38,280
you blew my mind right right you know I

3066
02:22:41,870 --> 02:22:40,110
just literally just blew my mind like

3067
02:22:43,790 --> 02:22:41,880
what this guy you know walked on you

3068
02:22:46,940 --> 02:22:43,800
know worked on you know you know tic-tac

3069
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,950
I never heard that before right so and

3070
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:48,720
that's you know part one of the stories

3071
02:22:54,140 --> 02:22:51,570
I got me started but unfortunately you

3072
02:22:55,970 --> 02:22:54,150
know it like anything else you have a

3073
02:22:57,860 --> 02:22:55,980
core of truth and you know mythology

3074
02:22:59,780 --> 02:22:57,870
start getting built around that you know

3075
02:23:02,510 --> 02:22:59,790
some obviously purposely some non

3076
02:23:04,670 --> 02:23:02,520
purposely but and as the years go on

3077
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:04,680
becomes harder and harder to tell what's

3078
02:23:07,730 --> 02:23:06,210
true what's not and that's probably from

3079
02:23:10,300 --> 02:23:07,740
Bob Lazar quite as well you know your

3080
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:10,310
memories are always bad reliable I think

3081
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:12,450
you know the story you're talking about

3082
02:23:16,370 --> 02:23:14,880
earlier about hi Saudi alien which for

3083
02:23:19,250 --> 02:23:16,380
me was one of the kind of arrest flags

3084
02:23:20,610 --> 02:23:19,260
originally because it just seemed real

3085
02:23:21,930 --> 02:23:20,620
convenient he's walking by the hall

3086
02:23:22,890 --> 02:23:21,940
we looked at windows a lot of alien

3087
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:22,900
there it just seems like that was a

3088
02:23:27,420 --> 02:23:25,210
whole set up for me but I think it's

3089
02:23:29,370 --> 02:23:27,430
possible that he saw something and it

3090
02:23:31,650 --> 02:23:29,380
was set up as the years went on he

3091
02:23:33,180 --> 02:23:31,660
started rationalizing it and today he's

3092
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:33,190
kind of a little more negative on it

3093
02:23:37,350 --> 02:23:35,050
probably you know unconsciously because

3094
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:37,360
of all the negative feedback I mean the

3095
02:23:40,620 --> 02:23:39,130
guys he's been getting trolled for

3096
02:23:42,270 --> 02:23:40,630
thirty years like we all get trolled in

3097
02:23:44,551 --> 02:23:42,280
this field right what do you do right

3098
02:23:46,591 --> 02:23:44,561
wolf gets you know some of us you react

3099
02:23:49,261 --> 02:23:46,601
much better than I do for example right

3100
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:49,271
but to the lazarre's been getting 12 for

3101
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:52,090
30 years and I think unconsciously you

3102
02:23:55,500 --> 02:23:53,680
start taking steps back and some of the

3103
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:55,510
things you said just as a defense

3104
02:24:00,480 --> 02:23:57,610
mechanism and I think that's very much

3105
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:00,490
in play with with Lazarre yeah he was

3106
02:24:06,420 --> 02:24:03,960
probably in it he was pummeled you know

3107
02:24:10,051 --> 02:24:06,430
pummeled I mean he left the state and

3108
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:10,061
and just disappeared and I can't blame

3109
02:24:14,910 --> 02:24:13,210
them for anything that he had done as a

3110
02:24:17,790 --> 02:24:14,920
reaction to that you're absolutely right

3111
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:17,800
defensive or otherwise I mean holy

3112
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:20,050
smokes right every aspect of his life

3113
02:24:25,740 --> 02:24:22,690
was put under a microscope look Stan

3114
02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:25,750
Freedman gets on your butt whoo right

3115
02:24:32,011 --> 02:24:29,920
well that's just something that nobody

3116
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:32,021
nobody wants and now he certainly

3117
02:24:38,910 --> 02:24:35,110
invited it but it did happen and it was

3118
02:24:40,350 --> 02:24:38,920
relentless relentless wolf I want to ask

3119
02:24:41,580 --> 02:24:40,360
you the same question before we go to

3120
02:24:44,820 --> 02:24:41,590
the break then we'll come back and pick

3121
02:24:46,890 --> 02:24:44,830
all of this up Alex if you if you if you

3122
02:24:47,551 --> 02:24:46,900
can stay with us and we'll pick this up

3123
02:24:50,850 --> 02:24:47,561
after the break

3124
02:24:53,310 --> 02:24:50,860
yeah but wolf I want to ask you the same

3125
02:24:57,240 --> 02:24:53,320
question for you what's what's the

3126
02:25:02,880 --> 02:24:57,250
significance that that Bob Lazar and and

3127
02:25:05,011 --> 02:25:02,890
George Knapp has had on ufology well I

3128
02:25:07,290 --> 02:25:05,021
think it was a game changer and now for

3129
02:25:10,830 --> 02:25:07,300
sure just like Alex said about you know

3130
02:25:12,570 --> 02:25:10,840
Roswell or you know Kecksburg incident

3131
02:25:16,170 --> 02:25:12,580
you know there's there's many famous

3132
02:25:19,530 --> 02:25:16,180
cases that that come to my mind that

3133
02:25:21,511 --> 02:25:19,540
were the game changers Kelly Hopkins you

3134
02:25:23,610 --> 02:25:21,521
know I got there's there's there's

3135
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:23,620
there's so many but uh but yeah it's

3136
02:25:26,940 --> 02:25:24,730
definitely won the game shoes everybody

3137
02:25:28,350 --> 02:25:26,950
game-changing for me because it it's

3138
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:28,360
whole story was the reason I started

3139
02:25:32,761 --> 02:25:30,610
doing research out at area 51 doctor al

3140
02:25:34,060 --> 02:25:32,771
it wasn't for that story coming out I

3141
02:25:35,980 --> 02:25:34,070
wouldn't be done

3142
02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:35,990
you know I spend you know I've been

3143
02:25:40,210 --> 02:25:37,490
going out there for four or five times

3144
02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:40,220
the years is like 1993 you know I mean

3145
02:25:43,480 --> 02:25:41,840
doing research out there and spying on

3146
02:25:45,880 --> 02:25:43,490
the base and recording transmissions

3147
02:25:48,850 --> 02:25:45,890
from the base you know so if it wasn't

3148
02:25:50,830 --> 02:25:48,860
for those our story I you know I don't

3149
02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:50,840
know what I'd be doing right now you

3150
02:25:56,500 --> 02:25:53,090
know well you know what we would have

3151
02:25:58,780 --> 02:25:56,510
never I don't know if I'm taking this a

3152
02:26:01,120 --> 02:25:58,790
little bit too far but there's a good

3153
02:26:04,390 --> 02:26:01,130
chance that we would have never known

3154
02:26:09,340 --> 02:26:04,400
about area 51 think about that first

3155
02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:09,350
yeah well right think about the depth of

3156
02:26:13,810 --> 02:26:12,530
what I just said yeah well I'll tell you

3157
02:26:18,790 --> 02:26:13,820
something interesting one of the guys on

3158
02:26:20,350 --> 02:26:18,800
my team was out there in night 91 he

3159
02:26:22,450 --> 02:26:20,360
knew there was a base up there might get

3160
02:26:24,640 --> 02:26:22,460
one of my guys from Edwards right he

3161
02:26:27,640 --> 02:26:24,650
went out with a buddy looking for the B

3162
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base like they knew about it before I

3163
02:26:31,960 --> 02:26:29,720
think actually before maybe even Lazar

3164
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broke the story and they he told me that

3165
02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:33,350
they went out looking for they got as

3166
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far as they actually passed Rachel and

3167
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went on the one peak before Tonopah and

3168
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they passed moon lake road and all that

3169
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:43,340
stuff they kind of knew like we're kind

3170
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of in the vicinity but they didn't find

3171
02:26:50,110 --> 02:26:47,750
that base didn't know they were out but

3172
02:26:53,261 --> 02:26:50,120
he told me the story back when they went

3173
02:26:56,020 --> 02:26:53,271
out there like in 1991 or something or

3174
02:26:57,340 --> 02:26:56,030
1990 so they were looking for than based

3175
02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:57,350
anyone was out there but they couldn't

3176
02:27:00,970 --> 02:26:57,920
find it

3177
02:27:03,790 --> 02:27:00,980
I still want I've got I've got one

3178
02:27:06,700 --> 02:27:03,800
minute left you know and I I joke about

3179
02:27:08,320 --> 02:27:06,710
this and I've been doing it for years I

3180
02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:08,330
mean years I've been joking about this

3181
02:27:13,870 --> 02:27:11,620
but I would take one for the team I

3182
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would go out there and get arrested

3183
02:27:19,360 --> 02:27:16,370
I really would I would go up to the

3184
02:27:22,300 --> 02:27:19,370
gates I'm not kidding I'd go up to the

3185
02:27:23,980 --> 02:27:22,310
gates I get out of my car I'd wait for

3186
02:27:24,460 --> 02:27:23,990
one of the guards to come out and talk

3187
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:24,470
to me

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I would I would push him and try to take

3189
02:27:44,960 --> 02:27:43,729
well you know but lucky if you want me

3190
02:27:53,150 --> 02:27:44,970
to go out there you want me to go out

3191
02:27:55,250 --> 02:27:53,160
there videotape your death readers like

3192
02:27:57,860 --> 02:27:55,260
the text are already coming in don't

3193
02:28:00,349 --> 02:27:57,870
even joke about this she is said to me

3194
02:28:02,900 --> 02:28:00,359
many times Jimmy do you know there were

3195
02:28:04,460 --> 02:28:02,910
guys that I worked with that every time

3196
02:28:06,590 --> 02:28:04,470
I told him I was going out to area 51

3197
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they were pissed off of me because I was

3198
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like well it's not coming back like they

3199
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always they always feared when I was

3200
02:28:15,260 --> 02:28:12,569
leaving to area 51 they thought I'm

3201
02:28:17,809 --> 02:28:15,270
never coming back well you know it's the

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02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:17,819
thing this is my wife who I love with

3203
02:28:24,740 --> 02:28:19,920
everything that I have but she goes I'm

3204
02:28:26,660 --> 02:28:24,750
not bailing you out of jail I'm talking

3205
02:28:28,910 --> 02:28:26,670
about five years ago you know when I

3206
02:28:30,050 --> 02:28:28,920
started talking about this and and I'm

3207
02:28:32,990 --> 02:28:30,060
okay with it

3208
02:28:35,450 --> 02:28:33,000
what I what I think is it hasn't

3209
02:28:38,120 --> 02:28:35,460
actually been tested everybody's run

3210
02:28:40,429 --> 02:28:38,130
from the camo dudes and justifiably so

3211
02:28:41,809 --> 02:28:40,439
well I thought people get arrested out

3212
02:28:42,610 --> 02:28:41,819
there you know that story right yeah I

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do

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one camera on the hill videotaping

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sudden people getting arrested right at

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the border you know with guns at their

3217
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heads in the ground and guns were

3218
02:28:56,750 --> 02:28:54,000
through its her head I saw the whole

3219
02:28:59,330 --> 02:28:56,760
thing go down you know and they didn't

3220
02:29:02,450 --> 02:28:59,340
happen and when they were taken to the

3221
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sheriff's department right yeah we have

3222
02:29:06,229 --> 02:29:04,140
to sign a piece of paper I actually have

3223
02:29:08,719 --> 02:29:06,239
the document I know what it looks like

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okay you have to go to trial in Alamo

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and you have to pay a fine the fines

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like I think it's a couple grand now but

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you got to pay a fine and then you got

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to go to court

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oh man I got the fader knots they'll

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back me up on this let's see we got Alex

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Mastretta with this and of course wolf

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McCarran we're talking about Jeremy

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corbels new film Bob Lazar

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area 51 in flying saucers Alex was with

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us last night we all had dinner before

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the movie and then we all sat together

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and watched a movie together last night

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we'll take a quick break

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I am your host Amy church this is fade

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all right welcome back fade to black

3327
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we've got Alex Mistretta here wolf

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McCarran we are reviewing Jeremy corbels

3329
02:34:45,500 --> 02:34:42,479
new film we watched it last night we all

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attended the premiere downtown Los

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02:34:49,820 --> 02:34:47,760
Angeles at the Ace Hotel the ACE Theater

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for Bob Lazar

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area 51 and flying saucers and we're

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gonna continue the conversation and Alex

3335
02:35:02,599 --> 02:34:59,130
I want to ask you directly what was your

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02:35:04,450 --> 02:35:02,609
takeaway of the film I have suggested I

3337
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:04,460
don't want to ask you a leading question

3338
02:35:10,639 --> 02:35:07,290
but I have suggested that this is not a

3339
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:10,649
documentary that this is a tribute you

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02:35:16,580 --> 02:35:13,680
use the word homage which I thought was

3341
02:35:20,109 --> 02:35:16,590
very clever and accurate too as well is

3342
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:20,119
that your takeaway of the film that it

3343
02:35:27,070 --> 02:35:23,250
shouldn't be classified in the

3344
02:35:30,410 --> 02:35:27,080
documentary sense but you are okay with

3345
02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:30,420
considering it something else yeah

3346
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:33,090
absolutely I think look it's a love

3347
02:35:38,359 --> 02:35:35,760
letter to you know Bob Lazar and then

3348
02:35:40,219 --> 02:35:38,369
that whole situation and I think it was

3349
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:40,229
in a lot of ways this was like watching

3350
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:42,000
therapy I think was very cathartic

3351
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:44,010
so Jeremy you know they get this movie

3352
02:35:47,570 --> 02:35:46,170
out and by the way it's absolutely worth

3353
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:47,580
watching everybody should watch in and

3354
02:35:50,990 --> 02:35:49,050
support Jeremy he's a good guy think his

3355
02:35:52,790 --> 02:35:51,000
heart is in the right place sure but yes

3356
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:52,800
I'm a documentary standpoint there

3357
02:35:56,689 --> 02:35:54,720
wasn't a whole lot of research he wasn't

3358
02:35:58,130 --> 02:35:56,699
like you know in the documentary you'll

3359
02:35:59,630 --> 02:35:58,140
you know you'll put up your working

3360
02:36:00,859 --> 02:35:59,640
hypothesis whatever you'll go through

3361
02:36:03,710 --> 02:36:00,869
the steps trying to prove or disprove

3362
02:36:05,300 --> 02:36:03,720
you have a point a counter point just

3363
02:36:07,219 --> 02:36:05,310
you know several discoveries you get a

3364
02:36:09,050 --> 02:36:07,229
have throughout the show this wasn't

3365
02:36:10,939 --> 02:36:09,060
really one of those and that's you know

3366
02:36:12,439 --> 02:36:10,949
strict sense but their lives really

3367
02:36:15,349 --> 02:36:12,449
blurred these days though you know

3368
02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:15,359
between fiction and documentary you know

3369
02:36:19,099 --> 02:36:18,090
this type of movie it's you know it's

3370
02:36:22,429 --> 02:36:19,109
kinda like the new I think it's a new

3371
02:36:24,380 --> 02:36:22,439
trend in a lot of ways so if in a

3372
02:36:28,070 --> 02:36:24,390
documentary I'll be honest I was kind of

3373
02:36:29,870 --> 02:36:28,080
say yeah so we've done that but I think

3374
02:36:33,439 --> 02:36:29,880
with you know with this some red flags

3375
02:36:35,300 --> 02:36:33,449
in terms of you know you have to look at

3376
02:36:37,639 --> 02:36:35,310
in terms of like it's very one-sided in

3377
02:36:39,541 --> 02:36:37,649
a lot of ways now what did you think was

3378
02:36:42,810 --> 02:36:39,551
the the

3379
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:42,820
he's seeing Bob today you know at work

3380
02:36:50,251 --> 02:36:48,160
at home with his wife and his his

3381
02:36:54,030 --> 02:36:50,261
demeanor you know it was pretty coolest

3382
02:36:56,730 --> 02:36:54,040
I I felt that he was presented in a you

3383
02:36:59,491 --> 02:36:56,740
know he's just a guy right he's just

3384
02:37:01,291 --> 02:36:59,501
yeah you know he's just a guy and and I

3385
02:37:03,211 --> 02:37:01,301
think that he's been humbled to by all

3386
02:37:05,570 --> 02:37:03,221
of this what did you think about all of

3387
02:37:08,341 --> 02:37:05,580
that new footage and seeing Bob again I

3388
02:37:09,690 --> 02:37:08,351
like that a lot just you know like you

3389
02:37:10,890 --> 02:37:09,700
like everybody else have all sort of

3390
02:37:13,171 --> 02:37:10,900
footage that we've all seen it it's

3391
02:37:15,001 --> 02:37:13,181
pretty dated by now and I was kind of

3392
02:37:16,980 --> 02:37:15,011
want to see what he was like today I

3393
02:37:19,470 --> 02:37:16,990
would respond to the same questions and

3394
02:37:22,591 --> 02:37:19,480
I would react and it was kind of cool

3395
02:37:24,961 --> 02:37:22,601
you know and yeah I think look you

3396
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:24,971
Stephanie's well regular guys in this

3397
02:37:29,761 --> 02:37:26,110
field if you really you know time to

3398
02:37:31,761 --> 02:37:29,771
think about it and seeing the humanity

3399
02:37:35,041 --> 02:37:31,771
seen the human side and kind of like

3400
02:37:36,631 --> 02:37:35,051
demystify him a little bit and for me

3401
02:37:37,770 --> 02:37:36,641
personally I becomes his story because

3402
02:37:39,560 --> 02:37:37,780
they're more believable because he's

3403
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just a regular guy not this mythological

3404
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symbol from you know 20 30 years ago

3405
02:37:47,011 --> 02:37:44,471
mm-hmm so I like that part you know in

3406
02:37:49,020 --> 02:37:47,021
that sense and he comes off look very

3407
02:37:51,241 --> 02:37:49,030
believable you know he always has I

3408
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think to me you know if you just based

3409
02:37:53,881 --> 02:37:52,690
on just watching his account if you

3410
02:37:56,850 --> 02:37:53,891
don't you know without any background

3411
02:38:01,140 --> 02:37:56,860
research he's a hard guy to discount he

3412
02:38:04,650 --> 02:38:01,150
really is I I did what everybody did I

3413
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watched over and over again every piece

3414
02:38:09,661 --> 02:38:07,360
of video footage I've seen it and I

3415
02:38:11,881 --> 02:38:09,671
don't even know dozens is is not the

3416
02:38:15,570 --> 02:38:11,891
right word maybe you know hundreds of

3417
02:38:18,451 --> 02:38:15,580
times and I've tried to catch him right

3418
02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:18,461
try to catch him yeah I've never been

3419
02:38:21,121 --> 02:38:20,290
able to do that I never had an aha

3420
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:21,131
moment

3421
02:38:25,741 --> 02:38:24,160
why backpedaled and and started to

3422
02:38:27,121 --> 02:38:25,751
discount Bob and I know that there's

3423
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:27,131
people out there that are gonna go

3424
02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:29,200
church who just off your rocker it never

3425
02:38:34,551 --> 02:38:32,290
happened I don't get that feeling and I

3426
02:38:40,051 --> 02:38:34,561
never have and then at the same point

3427
02:38:42,751 --> 02:38:40,061
with if I had a friend that was like Bob

3428
02:38:45,060 --> 02:38:42,761
where there was a side of them that I I

3429
02:38:47,850 --> 02:38:45,070
believe and I trust it and another side

3430
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:47,860
were there were so many red flags at

3431
02:38:52,300 --> 02:38:49,850
questions about its character

3432
02:38:53,950 --> 02:38:52,310
about his past that I would throw up my

3433
02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:53,960
hands ago dude you're full of crap you

3434
02:38:59,710 --> 02:38:56,720
know you can't have it both ways I don't

3435
02:39:02,950 --> 02:38:59,720
I don't do that with Bob and I don't

3436
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:02,960
understand why that I'm so willing to

3437
02:39:07,139 --> 02:39:05,810
give them a pass card but I am and so is

3438
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:07,149
everybody else

3439
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:10,130
yourself included Alex I mean you're

3440
02:39:15,639 --> 02:39:12,050
you're one of the hardest guys to get

3441
02:39:18,399 --> 02:39:15,649
anybody to to to get you to change your

3442
02:39:19,990 --> 02:39:18,409
mind or anything else you're one of the

3443
02:39:23,490 --> 02:39:20,000
toughest when it comes to this kind of

3444
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:23,500
stuff you know it's like you know like I

3445
02:39:26,649 --> 02:39:25,250
listened interviewed I don't know

3446
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:26,659
hundreds and hundreds of witnesses right

3447
02:39:30,219 --> 02:39:28,640
throughout the years and so I kind of

3448
02:39:31,630 --> 02:39:30,229
get a pretty good sense of when people

3449
02:39:33,130 --> 02:39:31,640
lying when they're full of crap it's

3450
02:39:35,500 --> 02:39:33,140
just the mannerisms they have and they

3451
02:39:36,939 --> 02:39:35,510
respond to questions you know I've had a

3452
02:39:39,849 --> 02:39:36,949
lot of experience with it and with him I

3453
02:39:41,559 --> 02:39:39,859
just can't find fault in the way he

3454
02:39:44,559 --> 02:39:41,569
delivers his material in the way talks

3455
02:39:46,450 --> 02:39:44,569
it drives me crazy because it's just

3456
02:39:48,070 --> 02:39:46,460
we're dichotomy where we all want to

3457
02:39:49,630 --> 02:39:48,080
believe him all of us well first of all

3458
02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:49,640
we know somebody worked there somebody

3459
02:39:52,599 --> 02:39:50,810
works with alien crafts somewhere it

3460
02:39:54,639 --> 02:39:52,609
happened right mm-hmm so it might as

3461
02:39:56,769 --> 02:39:54,649
well be him but we all want to believe

3462
02:39:59,080 --> 02:39:56,779
him so badly because it's so cool and

3463
02:40:01,240 --> 02:39:59,090
every one every one of us that's in this

3464
02:40:02,830 --> 02:40:01,250
field and if you disagree with it you

3465
02:40:04,840 --> 02:40:02,840
shouldn't be in this field want this to

3466
02:40:08,800 --> 02:40:04,850
be real want this to be true because we

3467
02:40:10,960 --> 02:40:08,810
all want validation of you know of this

3468
02:40:13,059 --> 02:40:10,970
phenomena right so you want to believe

3469
02:40:14,679 --> 02:40:13,069
him so badly but on the other hand you

3470
02:40:15,880 --> 02:40:14,689
read there's so much discrepancy in some

3471
02:40:19,420 --> 02:40:15,890
of these accounts we'll see what this

3472
02:40:24,219 --> 02:40:19,430
background and so it's like he's like

3473
02:40:28,450 --> 02:40:24,229
the Castaneda totally and see there's

3474
02:40:32,349 --> 02:40:28,460
there's another thing I have like most

3475
02:40:35,260 --> 02:40:32,359
of us I have a pretty keen ability to

3476
02:40:39,580 --> 02:40:35,270
look at somebody and call BS right I

3477
02:40:41,500 --> 02:40:39,590
will I will if somebody even goes down

3478
02:40:44,019 --> 02:40:41,510
that road with a little bit it's just a

3479
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:44,029
little hint of it they're a canceled

3480
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:46,399
check they'll never be able to get it

3481
02:40:53,500 --> 02:40:51,050
back with me right and there are not

3482
02:40:57,540 --> 02:40:53,510
without naming names right now but there

3483
02:41:00,849 --> 02:40:57,550
are certain personalities in ufology

3484
02:41:03,929 --> 02:41:00,859
that are cancelled checks and they

3485
02:41:07,260 --> 02:41:03,939
became a canceled check with me there

3486
02:41:10,679 --> 02:41:07,270
quickly with Bob I've been doing this

3487
02:41:15,059 --> 02:41:10,689
now for 30 years with Bob and he's not a

3488
02:41:20,279 --> 02:41:15,069
canceled check wait you know I cannot

3489
02:41:22,949 --> 02:41:20,289
believe that but there I I don't see it

3490
02:41:25,139 --> 02:41:22,959
in them and and I know I'm gonna get to

3491
02:41:28,290 --> 02:41:25,149
get knocked and get criticized but if

3492
02:41:31,380 --> 02:41:28,300
people are looking at me to to discount

3493
02:41:33,620 --> 02:41:31,390
Bob I can't do it with everything else

3494
02:41:36,090 --> 02:41:33,630
that we've talked about MIT and Caltech

3495
02:41:38,460 --> 02:41:36,100
yeah I just don't think he went there

3496
02:41:40,739 --> 02:41:38,470
for some reason he won't come clean

3497
02:41:43,319 --> 02:41:40,749
about it but that doesn't mean he wasn't

3498
02:41:44,809 --> 02:41:43,329
at area 51 and he didn't see things and

3499
02:41:46,710 --> 02:41:44,819
that's where I stand

3500
02:41:48,239 --> 02:41:46,720
yeah I agree hundred percent

3501
02:41:51,449 --> 02:41:48,249
unfortunately you know these days really

3502
02:41:53,639 --> 02:41:51,459
very much in the extreme mentality where

3503
02:41:56,939 --> 02:41:53,649
everything you know all in or all out

3504
02:41:58,290 --> 02:41:56,949
you know and he doesn't qualified either

3505
02:41:59,519 --> 02:41:58,300
direction you know he's kind of like

3506
02:42:02,519 --> 02:41:59,529
he's one of those middle ground guys in

3507
02:42:04,199 --> 02:42:02,529
terms of veracity and that's and I think

3508
02:42:06,210 --> 02:42:04,209
it's what people respond so negatively

3509
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:06,220
at times it's frustrating now there was

3510
02:42:09,719 --> 02:42:07,840
something that was missing from the film

3511
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:09,729
last night and I didn't bring it up with

3512
02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:11,920
hi the review I want both of your

3513
02:42:16,380 --> 02:42:14,770
opinions one of the we talked about the

3514
02:42:19,050 --> 02:42:16,390
alien through the window that was a

3515
02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:19,060
significant significant part of his

3516
02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:22,930
story another probably bigger part of

3517
02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:26,890
his story then that was him witnessing

3518
02:42:33,090 --> 02:42:30,310
the test flight at Papoose Lake when he

3519
02:42:36,479 --> 02:42:33,100
showed up the sport model is out of the

3520
02:42:38,460 --> 02:42:36,489
hangar and suspended in the air and he's

3521
02:42:40,979 --> 02:42:38,470
looking at the distortion around the

3522
02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:40,989
craft the craft is there it's fired up

3523
02:42:44,609 --> 02:42:42,850
he doesn't know if it's being remote

3524
02:42:46,109 --> 02:42:44,619
control of somebody's in this thing

3525
02:42:49,410 --> 02:42:46,119
flying it he doesn't know any of these

3526
02:42:53,609 --> 02:42:49,420
things but it's his his description of

3527
02:42:56,609 --> 02:42:53,619
what he is witnessing certainly if true

3528
02:42:59,489 --> 02:42:56,619
is one of the most important events in

3529
02:43:02,569 --> 02:42:59,499
all of human history right it wasn't

3530
02:43:05,010 --> 02:43:02,579
even mentioned last night in the film Oh

3531
02:43:09,689 --> 02:43:05,020
what gives there Alex why do you think

3532
02:43:11,279 --> 02:43:09,699
that was omitted I have no idea that's a

3533
02:43:13,949 --> 02:43:11,289
that's a really good question it's

3534
02:43:15,239 --> 02:43:13,959
puzzling because for all of us I was one

3535
02:43:17,130 --> 02:43:15,249
of the initial events that probably

3536
02:43:17,579 --> 02:43:17,140
again blew our minds but we first read

3537
02:43:20,849 --> 02:43:17,589
about

3538
02:43:22,769 --> 02:43:20,859
you know right and while that wasn't in

3539
02:43:25,469 --> 02:43:22,779
the film and if I had no idea I got no

3540
02:43:28,079 --> 02:43:25,479
answer it's it's puzzling it's bizarre

3541
02:43:31,139 --> 02:43:28,089
it's such a big event I mean did you

3542
02:43:34,609 --> 02:43:31,149
know there was more aliens I think Jerry

3543
02:43:38,840 --> 02:43:34,619
is not concerned about about keeping the

3544
02:43:42,479 --> 02:43:38,850
proving lazarre's point you know

3545
02:43:46,559 --> 02:43:42,489
well again why not

3546
02:43:48,179 --> 02:43:46,569
this is if I've got Bob Lazar right and

3547
02:43:53,489 --> 02:43:48,189
he's sitting in front of me and I've got

3548
02:43:56,189 --> 02:43:53,499
cameras rolling I want to hear that that

3549
02:43:57,179 --> 02:43:56,199
testimony I want to hear it I want to

3550
02:43:59,340 --> 02:43:57,189
hear it again

3551
02:44:01,229 --> 02:43:59,350
maybe he's remembered something that he

3552
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:01,239
hasn't talked about before maybe the

3553
02:44:06,269 --> 02:44:03,430
story is gonna change a little bit baby

3554
02:44:09,359 --> 02:44:06,279
has something more to add but we need to

3555
02:44:13,279 --> 02:44:09,369
hear that story in the 2018 context

3556
02:44:16,139 --> 02:44:13,289
versus the 1993 version of the story and

3557
02:44:18,539 --> 02:44:16,149
and for those out there the audience

3558
02:44:20,609 --> 02:44:18,549
that has never heard of Bob Lazar before

3559
02:44:23,279 --> 02:44:20,619
that is you know getting introduced to

3560
02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:23,289
him for the first time they need to hear

3561
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:27,279
this it is so important it was such a

3562
02:44:32,189 --> 02:44:29,770
significant event in ethology like Alex

3563
02:44:37,619 --> 02:44:32,199
said I I don't understand why Jeremy

3564
02:44:39,359 --> 02:44:37,629
would avoid the issue wolf yeah yeah I

3565
02:44:42,619 --> 02:44:39,369
just like I said it seems like the movie

3566
02:44:45,599 --> 02:44:42,629
was more geared toward the Lydia and his

3567
02:44:47,099 --> 02:44:45,609
climate keep the validity of Lazar but

3568
02:44:49,979 --> 02:44:47,109
yeah he could have thrown in a couple

3569
02:44:52,380 --> 02:44:49,989
little things about police about the the

3570
02:44:54,420 --> 02:44:52,390
testing and that's been done before but

3571
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:54,430
he could have he could have show I mean

3572
02:44:58,800 --> 02:44:57,279
cos that he looked at the UFO and we can

3573
02:45:00,420 --> 02:44:58,810
became invisible and he looks up and saw

3574
02:45:01,469 --> 02:45:00,430
the night sky and he had the compliant

3575
02:45:04,349 --> 02:45:01,479
my threats around it kind of like a

3576
02:45:08,219 --> 02:45:04,359
rhyme predator kind of effect you know

3577
02:45:09,449 --> 02:45:08,229
the movie predator kind of thing but

3578
02:45:10,979 --> 02:45:09,459
yeah I don't know why that was skipped

3579
02:45:13,260 --> 02:45:10,989
but I I think it was skipped because he

3580
02:45:15,149 --> 02:45:13,270
seems like he's really made this movie

3581
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:15,159
to try to just one I really believe

3582
02:45:21,960 --> 02:45:18,640
Lazar more he didn't seem too concerned

3583
02:45:23,489 --> 02:45:21,970
about mostly police stuff but he did

3584
02:45:25,889 --> 02:45:23,499
give him that chance to talk about the

3585
02:45:28,380 --> 02:45:25,899
accelerators and what he was drawing on

3586
02:45:31,410 --> 02:45:28,390
the paper and all that near the end of

3587
02:45:33,300 --> 02:45:31,420
the movie yeah that was very cool

3588
02:45:38,219 --> 02:45:33,310
let's actually get to the end of the

3589
02:45:43,320 --> 02:45:38,229
movie after the movie ended George Knapp

3590
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:43,330
and Jeremy and Bob Lazar sat down to

3591
02:45:51,149 --> 02:45:47,290
take questions I am going to let the

3592
02:45:53,849 --> 02:45:51,159
audience know that at that point I got

3593
02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:53,859
up and left and the reason why I got up

3594
02:45:56,639 --> 02:45:54,489
and left

3595
02:45:59,250 --> 02:45:56,649
not that I wasn't interested but I

3596
02:46:02,639 --> 02:45:59,260
needed to use the little boy's room so

3597
02:46:04,710 --> 02:46:02,649
and and I didn't make it back into the

3598
02:46:09,899 --> 02:46:04,720
theater did you guys stay for the

3599
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:09,909
question and answer the QA yes okay the

3600
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:12,010
wolf did you stay for the QA or did you

3601
02:46:17,969 --> 02:46:15,760
go with me wolf I know no you left what

3602
02:46:20,099 --> 02:46:17,979
I didn't think there was Alex was there

3603
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:20,109
a QA I thought to just see this guy I

3604
02:46:23,820 --> 02:46:22,210
mean I saw him talking her they didn't

3605
02:46:26,610 --> 02:46:23,830
take questions from the audience though

3606
02:46:27,630 --> 02:46:26,620
yeah that's what the materials picture

3607
02:46:32,309 --> 02:46:27,640
questions from Twitter

3608
02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:32,319
they took questions from okay how many

3609
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:34,630
questions how many questions did they

3610
02:46:38,700 --> 02:46:36,810
take and do you remember anything

3611
02:46:41,580 --> 02:46:38,710
significant from that any any

3612
02:46:43,260 --> 02:46:41,590
significant question what welcomed me in

3613
02:46:44,849 --> 02:46:43,270
the nap talking along you know next

3614
02:46:46,979 --> 02:46:44,859
because it gifted Gabby talked a long

3615
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:46,989
time and then I'm going guys he got to

3616
02:46:51,719 --> 02:46:49,600
Bob a little bit you know and then and

3617
02:46:53,490 --> 02:46:51,729
then Jeremy talks a long time the bottom

3618
02:46:55,080 --> 02:46:53,500
guy that really wanted to even be there

3619
02:46:56,910 --> 02:46:55,090
I wanted to talk about it like nearly

3620
02:46:58,880 --> 02:46:56,920
kind of threw some things at him and he

3621
02:47:00,030 --> 02:46:58,890
kind of Bob really didn't talk at all

3622
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:00,040
really

3623
02:47:05,519 --> 02:47:02,050
Alex do you remember that did did Bob

3624
02:47:07,559 --> 02:47:05,529
answer any questions no I mean it was

3625
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:07,569
Jeremy's start answering a couple of

3626
02:47:11,219 --> 02:47:08,800
questions and then he kind of turned

3627
02:47:13,080 --> 02:47:11,229
over to you know the lazar he but it was

3628
02:47:15,330 --> 02:47:13,090
I can't remember what Lazar said it was

3629
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:15,340
pretty brief and you know I'm getting I

3630
02:47:19,110 --> 02:47:17,290
was kind of in console sitting there and

3631
02:47:22,649 --> 02:47:19,120
you know George has a tendency to take

3632
02:47:24,360 --> 02:47:22,659
over anyway your nap right right so and

3633
02:47:25,769 --> 02:47:24,370
that's kind of what happened so well the

3634
02:47:28,769 --> 02:47:25,779
reason why I'm asking you guys that

3635
02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:28,779
because I had heard from others that

3636
02:47:34,019 --> 02:47:31,870
were there later they said they felt

3637
02:47:38,760 --> 02:47:34,029
like Bob just wanted to get out of there

3638
02:47:41,429 --> 02:47:38,770
did ya I don't want I wasn't there but I

3639
02:47:42,450 --> 02:47:41,439
heard that from everybody everybody said

3640
02:47:43,660 --> 02:47:42,460
the same thing that bob was

3641
02:47:45,700 --> 02:47:43,670
uncomfortable

3642
02:47:49,750 --> 02:47:45,710
he wanted to get up and split is that

3643
02:47:52,200 --> 02:47:49,760
the vibe that that you guys got yes yes

3644
02:47:57,640 --> 02:47:52,210
I got that yeah yeah completely

3645
02:47:59,320 --> 02:47:57,650
right how real how okay I trust both of

3646
02:48:02,530 --> 02:47:59,330
you so much and I want the audience to

3647
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:02,540
share that trust the circle of trust

3648
02:48:07,990 --> 02:48:07,520
how did it end how many questions were

3649
02:48:10,390 --> 02:48:08,000
asked

3650
02:48:12,910 --> 02:48:10,400
I mean was it a half hour was it 15

3651
02:48:14,650 --> 02:48:12,920
minutes it was like 20 minutes it was

3652
02:48:20,920 --> 02:48:14,660
pretty quick it was pretty quick

3653
02:48:23,380 --> 02:48:20,930
Wow and how how did it end I mean was it

3654
02:48:26,560 --> 02:48:23,390
an uncomfortable end I don't want to put

3655
02:48:27,910 --> 02:48:26,570
a damper on all of this no it's just

3656
02:48:29,500 --> 02:48:27,920
like an end like thank you everybody for

3657
02:48:31,630 --> 02:48:29,510
coming and thank you so much and you

3658
02:48:32,800 --> 02:48:31,640
know and there were there were I mean

3659
02:48:34,900 --> 02:48:32,810
the you know the people in the audience

3660
02:48:36,969 --> 02:48:34,910
that were fans of course of azar believe

3661
02:48:39,850 --> 02:48:36,979
him were one guy was started yelling out

3662
02:48:41,140 --> 02:48:39,860
Bobby Orr hero and you know stuff like

3663
02:48:43,420 --> 02:48:41,150
that so a lot of people in the audience

3664
02:48:46,690 --> 02:48:43,430
that were you know big fans and believe

3665
02:48:49,140 --> 02:48:46,700
them sight-unseen already why not take

3666
02:48:53,020 --> 02:48:49,150
why not take questions from the audience

3667
02:48:55,090 --> 02:48:53,030
normally you set up a microphone on one

3668
02:48:57,880 --> 02:48:55,100
aisle set up a microphone on the other

3669
02:49:00,670 --> 02:48:57,890
everybody gets in a line and you get to

3670
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:00,680
take at that's what they showed up for

3671
02:49:05,620 --> 02:49:03,200
yeah they do that it could have been a

3672
02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:05,630
lot of chaos is you know we me and Alex

3673
02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:07,850
are very experienced with this know if

3674
02:49:14,590 --> 02:49:12,650
you guys do this once a day because

3675
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:14,600
there's always these people that don't

3676
02:49:17,790 --> 02:49:15,920
ask questions and want to make

3677
02:49:21,660 --> 02:49:17,800
statements if you know what I mean yeah

3678
02:49:25,300 --> 02:49:21,670
through they think you're gone forever

3679
02:49:28,690 --> 02:49:25,310
but but how did the audience react to

3680
02:49:30,580 --> 02:49:28,700
that I mean it seems like you would

3681
02:49:31,840 --> 02:49:30,590
almost err just happy to see Bob they

3682
02:49:34,150 --> 02:49:31,850
were happy to keep Bob there and they

3683
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:34,160
just you know I think it was enough for

3684
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:36,170
them you know they enjoyed it and they

3685
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:38,090
were just you know happy to see him

3686
02:49:43,060 --> 02:49:40,090
there and they most of the people in the

3687
02:49:45,660 --> 02:49:43,070
it seemed to be you know believers of it

3688
02:49:48,340 --> 02:49:45,670
so I think I think the people liked it

3689
02:49:49,750 --> 02:49:48,350
Alex yeah I think I do I think at the

3690
02:49:51,550 --> 02:49:49,760
end there where people were just stoked

3691
02:49:53,200 --> 02:49:51,560
that he was there and he could see him I

3692
02:49:55,929 --> 02:49:53,210
don't think at that point it mattered so

3693
02:49:57,250 --> 02:49:55,939
much the material which I guess this is

3694
02:49:57,439 --> 02:49:57,260
kind of a crowd this was geared towards

3695
02:49:59,359 --> 02:49:57,449
and

3696
02:50:01,219 --> 02:49:59,369
it was more like like we said cousin

3697
02:50:04,459 --> 02:50:01,229
homage to Lazar something people are

3698
02:50:06,769 --> 02:50:04,469
just happy to see in life well if I buy

3699
02:50:08,989 --> 02:50:06,779
it but most people haven't if I would

3700
02:50:10,309 --> 02:50:08,999
have stuck around you know what I would

3701
02:50:13,959 --> 02:50:10,319
have done I would have stood up in the

3702
02:50:17,539 --> 02:50:13,969
you know and yelled out a question and

3703
02:50:31,099 --> 02:50:17,549
then just obnoxious did anybody attempt

3704
02:50:38,409 --> 02:50:31,109
to do that chipper cost so people did

3705
02:50:48,019 --> 02:50:42,909
oh yeah oh he he dealt with the hecklers

3706
02:50:51,170 --> 02:50:48,029
yeah yeah interesting well yeah Jeremy

3707
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:51,180
can be pretty strong I'm sure that that

3708
02:50:59,300 --> 02:50:55,680
was an uncomfortable moment well now now

3709
02:51:02,659 --> 02:50:59,310
overall as we start to wrap up here when

3710
02:51:06,019 --> 02:51:02,669
we talk about a review of the film okay

3711
02:51:09,229 --> 02:51:06,029
I want both of yours both of you to

3712
02:51:11,779 --> 02:51:09,239
answer this when you when you read a

3713
02:51:14,749 --> 02:51:11,789
movie review there's always a synopsis

3714
02:51:17,449 --> 02:51:14,759
there's always an ending where the movie

3715
02:51:19,819 --> 02:51:17,459
reviewer or the critic will suggest the

3716
02:51:22,819 --> 02:51:19,829
way that they would have made the film

3717
02:51:26,269 --> 02:51:22,829
right I would have done things this way

3718
02:51:31,369 --> 02:51:26,279
or I would have done things this way and

3719
02:51:33,590 --> 02:51:31,379
the film would have improved wolf if you

3720
02:51:41,139 --> 02:51:33,600
could have changed something in the film

3721
02:51:44,569 --> 02:51:41,149
what would it have been oh I do I

3722
02:51:47,869 --> 02:51:44,579
thought he did John if it was just my

3723
02:51:49,819 --> 02:51:47,879
piece myself I would have sped things up

3724
02:51:52,369 --> 02:51:49,829
it got into the things quicker instead

3725
02:51:54,439 --> 02:51:52,379
of later like 45 minutes in I would have

3726
02:51:56,449 --> 02:51:54,449
gone to the story knocked it out for

3727
02:51:58,219 --> 02:51:56,459
people that didn't know about him tying

3728
02:52:00,529 --> 02:51:58,229
that up and done that kind of quick some

3729
02:52:02,029 --> 02:52:00,539
people doctored the sense of that and

3730
02:52:04,789 --> 02:52:02,039
like he said that they they this stuff

3731
02:52:06,739 --> 02:52:04,799
will pop who's a little more and and

3732
02:52:10,291 --> 02:52:06,749
then gotten into but I think he just

3733
02:52:11,491 --> 02:52:10,301
hung too much on the I understand

3734
02:52:14,251 --> 02:52:11,501
you wrote stuff had to be there because

3735
02:52:16,741 --> 02:52:14,261
you needed an a-lister to get stuff

3736
02:52:18,060 --> 02:52:16,751
first time I get all that but the

3737
02:52:21,060 --> 02:52:18,070
dialogue was horrible that could have

3738
02:52:23,310 --> 02:52:21,070
been redone but uh as far as like the

3739
02:52:25,321 --> 02:52:23,320
the interviews that he did was nap in

3740
02:52:27,631 --> 02:52:25,331
the old interviews he just hung on those

3741
02:52:28,981 --> 02:52:27,641
too long and there was a lot of and I

3742
02:52:32,731 --> 02:52:28,991
think there's a lot of much too much

3743
02:52:33,271 --> 02:52:32,741
Jeremy in it too but that's how I would

3744
02:52:36,741 --> 02:52:33,281
have done it

3745
02:52:39,751 --> 02:52:36,751
Alex what what would you have changed I

3746
02:52:42,180 --> 02:52:39,761
would have taken Bob Lazar as close as

3747
02:52:44,371 --> 02:52:42,190
possible to area 51 at the gate even and

3748
02:52:48,121 --> 02:52:44,381
asking the most difficult questions

3749
02:52:54,810 --> 02:52:48,131
right there and then the area and see

3750
02:52:56,821 --> 02:52:54,820
how do you want to go to that right I

3751
02:52:58,711 --> 02:52:56,831
think that would have been real

3752
02:53:02,281 --> 02:52:58,721
interesting to see his response back or

3753
02:53:04,251 --> 02:53:02,291
you know at the spot so to speak what do

3754
02:53:06,481 --> 02:53:04,261
you think they'd ever been dramatic and

3755
02:53:08,430 --> 02:53:06,491
there was I think there was something

3756
02:53:10,350 --> 02:53:08,440
else that was left out in the film and

3757
02:53:14,961 --> 02:53:10,360
so I'm gonna ask both of you the same

3758
02:53:19,201 --> 02:53:14,971
question we've got five minutes Alex

3759
02:53:22,970 --> 02:53:19,211
Bob's impact cannot be measured and I

3760
02:53:25,890 --> 02:53:22,980
understand that but Bob's impact on

3761
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:25,900
research and how we have looked into

3762
02:53:32,881 --> 02:53:30,190
things gravity gravity waves propulsion

3763
02:53:35,731 --> 02:53:32,891
systems this has forced a lot of

3764
02:53:38,131 --> 02:53:35,741
research and and and and professional

3765
02:53:41,100 --> 02:53:38,141
physicists and researchers to look at

3766
02:53:44,191 --> 02:53:41,110
things probably a little bit differently

3767
02:53:47,701 --> 02:53:44,201
his impact has been pretty significant

3768
02:53:49,231 --> 02:53:47,711
don't you think absolutely that's great

3769
02:53:52,021 --> 02:53:49,241
I think it's those are things we should

3770
02:53:53,791 --> 02:53:52,031
definitely look into and I think whether

3771
02:53:57,441 --> 02:53:53,801
you know it validates a more doesn't

3772
02:54:00,060 --> 02:53:57,451
ultimately just looking into you know

3773
02:54:01,651 --> 02:54:00,070
any scientific issue in in relation it's

3774
02:54:03,271 --> 02:54:01,661
really important it's a big part of this

3775
02:54:05,310 --> 02:54:03,281
case right whether it's science holds up

3776
02:54:06,930 --> 02:54:05,320
or not right and we absolutely need to

3777
02:54:07,801 --> 02:54:06,940
look into that there's you know there's

3778
02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:07,811
no getting around it

3779
02:54:15,301 --> 02:54:10,360
wolf what do you think Bob's biggest

3780
02:54:18,421 --> 02:54:15,311
impact has been on ufology well I think

3781
02:54:20,551 --> 02:54:18,431
it's definitely yeah you know it's like

3782
02:54:22,371 --> 02:54:20,561
I said it was a game changer at least

3783
02:54:23,620 --> 02:54:22,381
for me and there was a game changer for

3784
02:54:29,320 --> 02:54:23,630
you know

3785
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:29,330
like out said that there were some you

3786
02:54:34,120 --> 02:54:30,560
know I was working on alien technology

3787
02:54:36,550 --> 02:54:34,130
now after that we do know about the Dan

3788
02:54:39,250 --> 02:54:36,560
bearish case and and you know about bill

3789
02:54:43,660 --> 02:54:39,260
uhouse right with the j-rod mm-hmm so

3790
02:54:45,010 --> 02:54:43,670
but Lazar stuff took off you know from

3791
02:54:47,530 --> 02:54:45,020
that was just more interesting because

3792
02:54:49,330 --> 02:54:47,540
of you know the you never heard stories

3793
02:54:51,340 --> 02:54:49,340
it was always about life in the sky or

3794
02:54:52,719 --> 02:54:51,350
that kind of thing or abductions so this

3795
02:54:55,570 --> 02:54:52,729
was kind of like the first time a guy

3796
02:54:57,070 --> 02:54:55,580
said yeah I worked you know worked on et

3797
02:54:59,700 --> 02:54:57,080
technology so that's why it was so

3798
02:55:04,000 --> 02:54:59,710
important I think it was a game changer

3799
02:55:06,490 --> 02:55:04,010
well I want to thank both of you for for

3800
02:55:09,910 --> 02:55:06,500
this and I can't wait for our next

3801
02:55:11,440 --> 02:55:09,920
dinner together last night was just last

3802
02:55:13,870 --> 02:55:11,450
night was just a little teaser but we've

3803
02:55:16,690 --> 02:55:13,880
got to do that really soon and and stay

3804
02:55:19,360 --> 02:55:16,700
up early late or there's nothing like it

3805
02:55:21,790 --> 02:55:19,370
when see this is the thing not only with

3806
02:55:25,000 --> 02:55:21,800
this show but with members of the

3807
02:55:28,179 --> 02:55:25,010
community I've been seeing this from the

3808
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:28,189
both of you for for over ten years where

3809
02:55:33,429 --> 02:55:31,520
you guys invite open conversation you've

3810
02:55:37,350 --> 02:55:33,439
been doing it month after month after

3811
02:55:40,690 --> 02:55:37,360
month at move on and now you pars where

3812
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:40,700
the openness and the communication and

3813
02:55:46,929 --> 02:55:43,010
from the community and bringing in

3814
02:55:48,580 --> 02:55:46,939
researchers to to get the dialogue going

3815
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:48,590
it's exactly what you two have been

3816
02:55:52,660 --> 02:55:50,960
doing for so long and I want to take the

3817
02:55:54,670 --> 02:55:52,670
opportunity right now to thank you for

3818
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:54,680
the both of you for what you have done

3819
02:55:58,540 --> 02:55:56,720
along with of course Steve Murillo and

3820
02:56:00,610 --> 02:55:58,550
in what you have done here in Los

3821
02:56:02,110 --> 02:56:00,620
Angeles County it's just it's it's just

3822
02:56:08,020 --> 02:56:02,120
been incredible and thank you both for

3823
02:56:10,090 --> 02:56:08,030
that hey guys be safe and be well and

3824
02:56:15,610 --> 02:56:10,100
we'll be doing that chill vodka here

3825
02:56:18,250 --> 02:56:15,620
very soon thank you so much yeah thank

3826
02:56:21,370 --> 02:56:18,260
you so much that's Alex Mastretta

3827
02:56:28,719 --> 02:56:21,380
thank you Alex Alex Mastretta and wolf

3828
02:56:32,620 --> 02:56:28,729
McCarran and again the movie is so worth

3829
02:56:35,469 --> 02:56:32,630
the watch and you can for for many many

3830
02:56:36,940 --> 02:56:35,479
many many different reasons but I want

3831
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:36,950
to say this

3832
02:56:43,210 --> 02:56:40,160
it's it's it's worth the watch for if

3833
02:56:45,969 --> 02:56:43,220
you just go and check out the new Lazar

3834
02:56:48,910 --> 02:56:45,979
footage all right it's some of the other

3835
02:56:51,370 --> 02:56:48,920
the the other footage that is there is

3836
02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:51,380
done to support the film and it's

3837
02:56:55,360 --> 02:56:53,600
footage that we've seen over and over

3838
02:56:57,280 --> 02:56:55,370
again it's been in the public domain for

3839
02:57:01,150 --> 02:56:57,290
a long time but that's not what's

3840
02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:01,160
important here okay the film is is a

3841
02:57:06,250 --> 02:57:03,920
significant and if you view it just as a

3842
02:57:08,410 --> 02:57:06,260
tribute there is enough stuff there for

3843
02:57:11,320 --> 02:57:08,420
everybody to just come away feeling

3844
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:11,330
pretty good if you're gonna go to watch

3845
02:57:17,110 --> 02:57:15,040
the film as a documentary with

3846
02:57:19,960 --> 02:57:17,120
everything that a documentary is

3847
02:57:23,740 --> 02:57:19,970
supposed to have and that Bob and Jeremy

3848
02:57:27,100 --> 02:57:23,750
are gonna present all of this new

3849
02:57:29,679 --> 02:57:27,110
information to just absolutely squash

3850
02:57:33,250 --> 02:57:29,689
and crush the critics and the debunkers

3851
02:57:35,820 --> 02:57:33,260
with a mountain of facts and piles of

3852
02:57:39,610 --> 02:57:35,830
documents and just all this evidence

3853
02:57:43,840 --> 02:57:39,620
well that's not what this film is about

3854
02:57:46,150 --> 02:57:43,850
and it may have been led that way and

3855
02:57:49,360 --> 02:57:46,160
presented that way that's not what it is

3856
02:57:52,179 --> 02:57:49,370
okay but is it worth watching absolutely

3857
02:57:55,480 --> 02:57:52,189
go and check it out Bob Lazar

3858
02:57:57,550 --> 02:57:55,490
area 51 and flying saucers I am your

3859
02:57:58,990 --> 02:57:57,560
host Jimmy Church tomorrow we got a very

3860
02:58:00,700 --> 02:57:59,000
special surprise guests we're gonna

3861
02:58:04,179 --> 02:58:00,710
announce that tomorrow we can't do today

3862
02:58:05,679 --> 02:58:04,189
and outlets you'll know why tomorrow but

3863
02:58:07,630 --> 02:58:05,689
we'll see you tomorrow night here on

3864
02:58:10,600 --> 02:58:07,640
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3865
02:58:13,600 --> 02:58:10,610
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3866
02:58:14,590 --> 02:58:13,610
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3867
02:58:17,050 --> 02:58:14,600
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3868
02:58:20,241 --> 02:58:17,060
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3869
02:58:23,031 --> 02:58:20,251
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3870
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3871
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3872
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3873
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3874
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3885
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3886
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